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fowlerjenn
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posted 10-21-2004 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fowlerjenn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, admit it, you know you love them!

Romance novels are some of my favorite forms of escapism. Personally, I like well written historicals-I like the tension between characters where they are in love with each other but something is keeping them apart-and lets face it, in modern life there aren't a lot of reasons for two adults who are interested in each other to be kept apart (unless they are married-and romance novels usually don't do adultery). In historical novels, there are oh so many legitimate reasons-the class structure, religion, family quarrels, espionage and intruge, being promised to someone else, etc.

And as an article I read once pointed out-good romances are actually pretty hard to write. After all, usually from the first chapter you can figure out who the hero and the heroine are, and you know that there is going to be a happy ending where they wind up either married or committed. So the author has to convince you, knowing the ending, to read the entire book anyway

Who out there is with me

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dcgrrrl1979
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posted 11-01-2004 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dcgrrrl1979     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm with you :-)

I enjoy the occassional well written historical (though it's hard to balance the historical details necessary to make the story believable with the 'good bits'). However, IMHO, what separates good romances from formula romances is character development - believable, funny, real characters (not to mention good dialogue). Er, and good pantyripping scenes.

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fowlerjenn
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posted 11-04-2004 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fowlerjenn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dcgrrrl1979:
- believable, funny, real characters (not to mention good dialogue). Er, and good pantyripping scenes.

Yup, nothing like a little nookie

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hollybolly
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posted 11-04-2004 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hollybolly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My favorite historical romance is a series by Diana Gabaldon... The Outlander Series (Dragonfly in Amber etc)
They are so well written, very well researched, and I love me a scottish man!

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hermitclare
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posted 11-05-2004 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hermitclare   Click Here to Email hermitclare     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'll confess to an addiction to rather trashy romance novels...as long as nobody tells anyone in my real life...

for historical novels, i have found that i like karyn monk, amanda quick and mary balogh...but then, i likes me a feisty heroine, anachronism be damned!

i have also read many a harlequin in my day...sometimes my brain needs some literal candy...

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EmmaNadine
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posted 11-05-2004 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmmaNadine   Click Here to Email EmmaNadine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hermitclare:
[B]for historical novels, i have found that i like karyn monk, amanda quick and mary balogh...but then, i likes me a feisty heroine, anachronism be damned!
B]

I used to read Amanda Quick, I'd snitch them from my mom. I agree with you about the feisty anachronistic heroines, they're the best. Maybe I'll go raid my mom's bookshelf when I go home for Christmas and see what's new...

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tippygee
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posted 11-07-2004 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tippygee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like to think of Romance novels as crack for the intellectual woman. They remind me of the Babysitter's Club and Sweet Valley Twins books I used to read when I was little--I get through them in a single sitting, and they have absolutely no intrinsic value other than the fact that they're cheap and fun to read. I mean, there is no way to make my entertainment dollar go further than to spend $2.50 on a crappy romance novel. Except perhaps to get it from the library--at my library, they tend to be "Honor" books which means I can take them out and not worry about overdue fines.

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Riah
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posted 11-07-2004 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Riah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree HollyBolly I love the Outlander books. There's just something about a man who loves the "convenience" of wearing a kilt.

[This message has been edited by Riah (edited 11-07-2004).]

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LazyGoddess
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posted 11-08-2004 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LazyGoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Riah:
There's just something about a man who loves the "convenience" of wearing a kilt.

*Snort*

Um yeah, anyway...I'm all about a little brain candy. I don't have a preferance for time period, style or novel vs. dime store book. All I want is good (read decent) character development, a half-way beliveable plot (which I'm flexible on ), and limited antagonism. I hate the story lines where the main characters fight for 2/3+ of the book and then magicallly realize they fight because they are madly in love in the last 5 pages. I mean really, who wants 280 pages of arguing? If I want constant bickering I'll go stay with the in-laws for a weekend. I'd rather read something where they are kept apart by circumstances or some such thing.

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Riah
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posted 11-08-2004 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Riah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There needs to be plot development and characters. Otherwise it is just a waist of time. You could get more out of just a little porn.

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Alice
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posted 11-09-2004 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I hate the story lines where the main characters fight for 2/3+ of the book and then magicallly realize they fight because they are madly in love in the last 5 pages. I mean really, who wants 280 pages of arguing? If I want constant bickering I'll go stay with the in-laws for a weekend. [/B]

*Giggle*

That is so annoying in movies, too!

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hermitclare
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posted 11-10-2004 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hermitclare   Click Here to Email hermitclare     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EmmaNadine:
I used to read Amanda Quick, I'd snitch them from my mom.

Oh yeah, I totally forgot to mention amanda quick!

Sometimes you need a little fluff to help with your day...

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kmp_flamingo
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posted 11-12-2004 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kmp_flamingo   Click Here to Email kmp_flamingo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, Jennifer Cruise is a pretty good trashy writer too. She has strong women characters and actual plot. I like her a lot.

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Drea D
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posted 11-26-2004 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drea D   Click Here to Email Drea D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sandra Brown! Love her! Great plots.

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luckieracergirl
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posted 11-26-2004 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for luckieracergirl   Click Here to Email luckieracergirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kmp_flamingo:
Oh, Jennifer Cruise is a pretty good trashy writer too. She has strong women characters and actual plot. I like her a lot.

I love Jennifer Crusie. Fantastic books. Tell Me Lies is my favorite.

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shadowfalls
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posted 11-29-2004 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shadowfalls   Click Here to Email shadowfalls     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone but my fiance thinks my favorite books are "classics" or intellectual reads. But my favorite genre and biggest vice? The fluff of romance novels.

I too especially love historical romance. Especially when the plot is good and doesn't rely on raunchy sex scenes. I read awfully fast, so I can usually get one done in 2 hours or less, so I have to get plenty so I can just read nonstop all day. mmmmmmm

I keep this hush hush because if all of my other English major friends/professors/family knew they would never look at me the same. haha

I just love that giddy feeling I get at the end of the novel. Like I can't stop smiling and my chest feels tight and I want to skip around. You know?

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Drea D
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posted 11-30-2004 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drea D   Click Here to Email Drea D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shadowfalls:

I too especially love historical romance. Especially when the plot is good and doesn't rely on raunchy sex scenes.

But I love raunchy sex scenes!

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LazyGoddess
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posted 11-30-2004 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LazyGoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shadowfalls:
I too especially love historical romance. Especially when the plot is good and doesn't rely on raunchy sex scenes.

I think the funniest thing about my TR habit is that my "supplier" is my great-grandmother. She belonged to the H@rlequin book club during the 60's, 70's and 80's. The woman has literaly 50 or so boxes full of these books. Most of them have only a smattering of "lustful situations" (her words) and the plots are usually pretty good. You can really tell when the women's movment kicked into high gear, the female charaters changed from doe-eyed dependants to self-sufficent career women in the span of about 5 years.

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hermitclare
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posted 12-13-2004 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hermitclare   Click Here to Email hermitclare     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My step-grandmother got me started on harlequins, too...isn't it nice to have intergenerational hobbies?

And thanks to the people who recommended Jennifer Crusie - I just read Welcome to Temptation and Bet Me and loved them!!

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breakmystride
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posted 12-13-2004 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for breakmystride     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i know this should go over in one of the craft threads, but i had to post it here---every time i see this board, it makes me giggle. i made Trashy Romance Novel Magnets for all my girlfriends this year. i took great snippets like "setting the center of her being on fire" or "his long, hard thighs" and made magnets out of them. tee hee!

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Emmasnips
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posted 12-13-2004 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emmasnips     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, OK, I admit that I have read a few, but there's one thing that I can't stand that is supposedly the same genre - The Lifetime Channel!

How many more overacted TV movies can be made where the woman falls for the good guy, only for things to turn out that the good guy is really a bad guy, and the guy that she didn't trust is really the good guy (supported by a cast of 'stars' who were in TV shows of their own years ago).

It seems to be a love it or hate it channel for all my friends, but personally I hate it! Give me a romance novel written by some hack anyday!

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fowlerjenn
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posted 12-16-2004 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fowlerjenn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, it is actually the sexual TENSION, rather than the actual sex that i find sexy (OK, how many times can I use the word "sex" annd it's variations in a sentence alreaday???)

I find that I actually skim some of the sex scenes lately

I guess that is why I really prefer historicals. In modern society, two unattached adults who are wildly attracted to each other and single really don't have many reasons why they SHOULDN'T get together, at least sexually. Well, OK, there are reasons, but none that can hold up in a romance novel where you have to have them really get together at the end. Lets face it, most of the conflicts in contemporary romances could be fixed if the two characters actually sat down and talked to each other.

On the other hand, historicals offer all sorts of reasons why they shouldn't be together.

To add to the list of folks people love:
Christina Dodd
Stephanie Laurens
Linda Lael Miller

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glamtart
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posted 12-16-2004 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamtart   Click Here to Email glamtart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too love a good trashy romance! It cleanses my palate after reading Thomas Hardy... I always laugh to see how many smart, well-read people have this little secret!

My mom got me started on romance novels when I was about 12 or 13. My favorites are usually historical (medieval or Regency-era). I *love* Lynn Kurland - she has great stories that aren't too trashy. She does a lot of intertwined stories, so you get to revisit your favorite characters in several books. I would definitely recommend her books.

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Ginny
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posted 12-22-2004 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ginny   Click Here to Email Ginny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would suggest reading The Other Boleyn Girl by Phillipa Gregory. It's so good and is based on events that happened durring Henry VIII reign. I couldn't put it down.

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ellie
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posted 01-11-2005 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ellie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just stumbled upon Anita Shreve after picking up The Pilot's Wife at Target. She might not fit in with some of the other authors here, I'm not sure because I haven't read them.. but there is a romance aspect to her books and I do feel a little guilty reading them (except for the Pilot's Wife, that one did feel like a serious novel, I think)
I liked Sea Glass a lot too.

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Ms. Moneypenny
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posted 01-11-2005 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ms. Moneypenny   Click Here to Email Ms. Moneypenny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom used to write trashy romance novels, or as she always referred to them "historical western romance novels'. She and her writting partner had 6 published, but I think they got burned out after that. Although it's kind of cool now, growing up, it was so embarrasing. I was 12 when the first one was published. All my friends parents bought them and then of course, my friends would steal them and read them. They would always taunt me by telling me what steamy sex scenes there were in the books. My hair stylist even asked me (when I was 15) if my dad had inspired my mom. I wanted to puke. I ended up just telling everyone that her writting partner did the sex scenes. Her children were saying the same thing about my mom. In defense of their writting, though, I know they spent hundreds of hours doing research about the time period and location with each book they wrote. It usually took them about a year and half for each book.
I haven't read any of them yet. I was too young when they were published and just haven't gotten around to it since I've gotten older. I need to start reading them.

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downwardsunshine
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posted 04-01-2005 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downwardsunshine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depending on how "trashy" you like here are some more authors:

Bertrice Small
Lori Foster
Emma Holly
Robin Schone
Thea Devine (although her books are really filled with symbolism and I don't read romances to look for hidden meanings )
Susan Johnson

Most of those authors are bordering on Erotica so like I mentioned.. depends on how trashy you want to go

I also enjoy Diana Gabaldon and Nora Roberts as well as Janet Evanovich and Brenda Joyce. And for a sweet romance with almost no naughty bits there is always Katherine Stone. Her books are really hauntingly beautiful.

Deborah Smith's A Place to Call Home is the FUNNIEST contemporary I have ever read.. I would recommend it to everyone Its not a normal romance and it deals with abuse but as I said it is very good.

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downwardsunshine
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posted 04-01-2005 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downwardsunshine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ms. Moneypenny:

I haven't read any of them yet. I was too young when they were published and just haven't gotten around to it since I've gotten older. I need to start reading them.

I don't suppose you could share a title with us? I would love to know If I have read them or not

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