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yeefan
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posted 06-18-2004 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yeefan   Click Here to Email yeefan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Time for a new thread! More answers to those cooking questions you know you should know, but don't...


last couple comments in the previous thread:

poppy
Housemate posted 06-18-2004 07:31 AM

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I have a sort of strange question. Last night I was planning on making this recipe for oven 'fried' chicken. Anyhow, it called for the chicken to be marinated in buttermilk for an hour. Needless to say, I put it in the buttermilk and then ended up going shopping and not cooking it. Do you think it is still ok today? I mean, is there any weird reaction between poultry & dairy if it's been sitting together for this long? It will be about 24 hour between when I put them together and when I get ready to make the chicken later.

yam
Housemate posted 06-18-2004 07:39 AM

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I've marinated chicken for longer than that, it'll just be tastier. Assuming the chicken wasn't already in your fridge for 3 days or something.

[This message has been edited by yeefan (edited 06-18-2004).]

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muppet_girl
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posted 06-18-2004 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for muppet_girl   Click Here to Email muppet_girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bleautiful! Thanks Household Goddess!

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lduds
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posted 06-21-2004 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lduds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know anything about making homemade vanilla extract? Is really just letting vanilla beans sit in vodka?

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EmmaNadine
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posted 06-21-2004 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmmaNadine   Click Here to Email EmmaNadine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lduds:
Does anyone know anything about making homemade vanilla extract? Is really just letting vanilla beans sit in vodka?

I think bourbon works better than vodka. At least that is what is used in the vanilla extract I buy.

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muppet_girl
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posted 06-21-2004 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for muppet_girl   Click Here to Email muppet_girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it ok to eat/cook a white onion once it's sprouted? You'd almost think my onion bin was a garden...

Thank you!

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Epicurus
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posted 06-21-2004 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Epicurus   Click Here to Email Epicurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, it's OK to cook a sprouted onion. Garlic, too. It just won't have as much sugar in it as it normally would.

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muppet_girl
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posted 06-23-2004 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for muppet_girl   Click Here to Email muppet_girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Random recipe question #349:

I was thinking of making a cottage cheese/ricotta pie. Do you think there would be any harm in adding pudding mix to it to chocolate it up? I mean, what could instant pudding mix do in the oven?

Any guesses?

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k8b
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posted 06-23-2004 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for k8b   Click Here to Email k8b     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by muppet_girl:
Random recipe question #349:

I was thinking of making a cottage cheese/ricotta pie. Do you think there would be any harm in adding pudding mix to it to chocolate it up? I mean, what could instant pudding mix do in the oven?

Any guesses?



I've seen cake recipes that call for pudding mix. My guess is that nothing too terrible would happen. It would probably just be really thick...and creamy and delicious! Let me know how it goes. I'm curious.

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Epicurus
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posted 06-23-2004 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Epicurus   Click Here to Email Epicurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd add whole chocolate chips if you want to give it a little chocolate kick. You could also maybe add some regular old cocoa powder or some melted chocolate.

Pudding mix might change the consistency of the filling too much and make it way too sweet.

I'm with k8b, though--let us know how it comes out!

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Nieci
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posted 06-23-2004 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What am I supposed to do with duck sauce, really?

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muppet_girl
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posted 06-23-2004 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for muppet_girl   Click Here to Email muppet_girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Epicurus:
Pudding mix might change the consistency of the filling too much and make it way too sweet.

Good point. I'll omit the sugar then. Here goes nothin'!

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jstrizzy
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posted 06-23-2004 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jstrizzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nieci:
What am I supposed to do with duck sauce, really?

dip things, especially fried things. but my boyfriend also uses it in marinades (for chicken) and barbecue sauces (for the sweet/sour flavor).

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muppet_girl
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posted 06-25-2004 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for muppet_girl   Click Here to Email muppet_girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, experimental chocolate cheese pie is yummy but next time I'll just follow the no-bake recipe (roughly, mix pudding mix with 1 c cottage cheese and 1 c milk in blender, pour into pie crust). The recipe I'd followed included eggs, requiring baking, but then the pudding wouldn't set, and even after 25 mins the pie crust wasn't quite done. Filling is very tasty though.

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Princessjeanne
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posted 06-29-2004 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do recipes call for 12 oz of pasta when it is sold in 16 oz boxes? What am I supposed to do with the extra 4 oz? Save up three boxes worth and have some pasta crazyquilt thing? Sheesh.

Ok this is more of a small rant than a real question, but I'd love to hear it if anyone has an answer.

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quarkiegirl
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posted 06-29-2004 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for quarkiegirl   Click Here to Email quarkiegirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehe. that reminds me of the "superfluous buns" in "father of the bride."

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jstrizzy
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posted 06-29-2004 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jstrizzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't really have an answer, but I was just as annoyed when a recipe I made called for 6 oz. of cream cheese--it comes in 8 oz. blocks (I could have the #s wrong, but I know I only had to use 3/4 of it)! And I don't really use cream cheese.

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pollyhyper
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posted 06-29-2004 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Princessjeanne:
Why do recipes call for 12 oz of pasta when it is sold in 16 oz boxes? What am I supposed to do with the extra 4 oz? Save up three boxes worth and have some pasta crazyquilt thing? Sheesh.

Some pasta still comes in 12-oz. boxes. I know this b/c last time I went to make a pound of pasta for pasta salad, the box seemed unusually light and I checked it.

Also, I do believe cream cheese used to commonly come in 6 oz. So if y'all are using recipes 5+ years old, that could be why.

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FunPun
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posted 07-02-2004 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FunPun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I'm going to try making fresh pasta this weekend. If I don't cook all of it, what's the best way to keep the rest? I was thinking I could just dry it, then I remembered that there'd be raw egg in it, so I don't know if that would be ok. Would freezing be better?

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LazyGoddess
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posted 07-02-2004 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LazyGoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jstrizzy:
I don't really have an answer, but I was just as annoyed when a recipe I made called for 6 oz. of cream cheese--it comes in 8 oz. blocks (I could have the #s wrong, but I know I only had to use 3/4 of it)! And I don't really use cream cheese.

Cream cheese here comes in 3oz and 8oz pkgs. if I need 6oz I just buy 2 3oz pkgs. I seems like every recipe I own calls for some where between 4 & 7oz, though.

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Princessjeanne
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posted 07-03-2004 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can dry fresh pasta, the egg will cook when you boil it later. Otherwise, if you want to eat it in the next couple of days, you can put it in the fridge. But definitely only do that for 2, maybe 3 days at most - when I used to make pasta I found it got wierd really fast in the fridge.

Oooh, fresh pasta. Yum.

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poppy
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posted 07-08-2004 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for poppy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okey dokey, I have a question about grill pans. I thought these were flat pans with slats in them that went in the oven. I looked for one at Target but I didn't find any like that. I found grill pans that go on the stovetop that look like skillets with ridges in them. And I found roasting pans that go in the oven. I don't know what to get. What does eveyone use? I mainly want it to cook fish, chicken, burgers etc.

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meggo
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posted 07-08-2004 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meggo   Click Here to Email meggo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought roasting pans were those big honkin' - put a whole ham in it kind of pan. The kind my mom used to store that cereal mix in.
Grill pans have those ridges. I have one of those and have honestly never used it. Perhaps I should dust it off & give it a go.

My question: fennel. I bought a bulb of it because I remember eating it last year and loving it. And I thought I might have either put sour cream or plain yogurt in with thinly sliced bits. But I don't remember. Anyone have any quick tips?

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sweet tea
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posted 07-08-2004 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet tea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Poppy: The pans you described are broiler pans. They usually come in two parts... the flat piece you described and then a bottom piece that's a little deeper with no openings (to catch the drippings from the top pan). IMO they are one of the best inventions ever... even if they are a pain in the behind to clean.

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pollyhyper
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posted 07-08-2004 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sweet tea:
IMO they are one of the best inventions ever... even if they are a pain in the behind to clean.

I agree. Why can't they make them just a LITTLE smaller, so they fit in the sink to soak?

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jh
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posted 07-08-2004 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jh   Click Here to Email jh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How long does cream cheese last? Or spaghetti sauce? The boy and I have varying opinions on how long stuff is good for and either end up being too precautious or carefree/devil-may-care.

The boy says that the cream cheese is good until the date printed on the container, which is several months away. But I say that's just the 'use by' date and if it's open longer than a week and a half is scary. I keep trying to pose a situation to him to make him understand, say you got a container of cream cheese and opened it and then it got pushed to the back of the fridge and forgotten for two months. Doesn't it seem obvious that it would be all moldy and gross? Or am I wrong? He figures if you continually use it, it's fine.

Same sort of thing with spaghetti sauce. We only use half a jar at a time so then we put the remainder in the fridge. I say it's only good for one week but the boy will continue to use it up to several weeks later. You'd think he'd be more cautious since he's had food poisoning before.

What do ya'll say? Is there a website that gives general 'use by' dates for food? Why aren't there obvious 'use within X days' on all packaged food products? I remember seeing one of those news program "exposes" about how people keep stuff in their fridge way too long. Like lunch meat was suppose to be used within a week, salad dressing a couple months.

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quarkiegirl
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posted 07-08-2004 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for quarkiegirl   Click Here to Email quarkiegirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have no idea, but i would love to know. i feel like i throw stuff away too soon and that i'm wasting it, but am i really?

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gemini
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posted 07-08-2004 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gemini   Click Here to Email gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I eat anything that doesn't look or smell funky. . . .

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FunPun
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posted 07-08-2004 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FunPun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I typically go by the looks ok/smells ok rule, especially if it's something I'm going to be cooking, like tomato sauce. Ooh, unless it's a case of not even being able to remember how long something's been in the fridge. Then it definitely gets the boot.

I'd say the date on a product does effectively go out the window once you open it, especially with dairy products. You might want to double check to see if the cream cheese is imprinted with a 'sell by' date or a 'use by' date, which would make a difference.

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LittleRed
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posted 07-08-2004 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LittleRed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure about cream cheese because I rarely use it, but I use jarred spaghetti sauce for a long time and don't worry about it (like 2 months) -- is that gross? I don't think it ges bad.

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Henna73
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posted 07-08-2004 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henna73   Click Here to Email Henna73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have used cream cheese that was 2 months old! It smelled fine and had no mold so I went for it. I am still here to talk about it, so that's a good sign. As for sauce, your safest bet would be to freeze the remainder so it will last longer. I love red sauce, so I rarely have any left.

The only thing I am really leary about is meat and milk. Most cheeses can be/or are aged so that doesn't bother me. Fruits and veggies usually let you know right away if they are done (slimey, smelly, squishy, etc.).

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noraneither
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posted 07-08-2004 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for noraneither     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think tomato sauce can last for a while if you keep it cool enough -- I think the acidity of the tomatoes helps preserve it.

I did once get food poisoning from spaghetti sauce, though. I'm pretty sure this was not because of how long I kept it, which wasn't that long, but because I had it too close to the front of the fridge, and I don't think it stayed cool enough. I had a bad hunch about it, and convinced myself to eat it because it hadn't been in there that long. Ugh. Trust your intuition.

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Merimoo
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posted 07-08-2004 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merimoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I buy 6 or 8 boxes of cream cheese when it's on sale, and my boyfriend hasn't died yet! With cheese, you can generally see the mold if there is any. J often has a 2-week-old block of open cream cheese...

The sell-by date is generally the last date that you can open it; how long it stays good after it's opened depends on other things, such as the temperature and humidity of your fridge and how long it's been left out on the counter. I've had spaghetti sauce last two weeks, no problem (home-made would go bad much sooner). I usually just check the lid for mold.

Real Simple had an article on when to throw out things a few months ago - maybe someone who suscribes can check which issue? I always use fish within 24 hours of purchase, and ground beef within 2 or 3 days. Actually, most beef within 2 or 3 days - longer than that, and it goes in the freezer as soon as it's back from the store. Chicken, I think lasts a little longer, but you can totally smell when that's turned.

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jstrizzy
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posted 07-08-2004 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jstrizzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm with the "if it doesn't smell bad and doesn't have mold, eat it" school generally, though I'm somewhat more cautious about poultry/fish/etc.

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minxx
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posted 07-09-2004 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for minxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm also in the smells good/looks good = it's good catagory. I haven't been sick, yet! Just be sure to keep things like opened jars of sauce in the frig.

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Nieci
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posted 07-13-2004 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my coworkers just brought me a large bag of yellow squash because he knows I love to cook.

Problem is...I've never cooked yellow squash. Ever. Do I peel it? What should I make with it?

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meggo
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posted 07-13-2004 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meggo   Click Here to Email meggo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nieci:
One of my coworkers just brought me a large bag of yellow squash because he knows I love to cook.

Problem is...I've never cooked yellow squash. Ever. Do I peel it? What should I make with it?


Is it butternut or spaghetti? Or is it more like zucchini?
Butternut is more beige than yellow & has a bulbous bottom end (don't we all? ). Spaghetti is yellow & football shaped. Or does it look more like a largish cucumber?

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Nieci
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posted 07-13-2004 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's def not butternut...it's bright yellow, bulbous bottom end, and it's got bumps all over it.

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muppet_girl
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posted 07-13-2004 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for muppet_girl   Click Here to Email muppet_girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it's yellow summer squash (kind of cucumber-looking), then it's great for stir-fries and using in lieu of zucchini. I keep the skin on, that's the good part. (Yes, we're still talkin' veggies here )

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pollyhyper
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posted 07-14-2004 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nieci:
It's def not butternut...it's bright yellow, bulbous bottom end, and it's got bumps all over it.

That's a type of yellow summer squash. Treat it as you would zucchini.
I'll bump the veggies thread where there are quite a few tasty recipes!

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fluffygurl
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posted 07-16-2004 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffygurl   Click Here to Email fluffygurl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly how do I go about cooking lemongrass? Ive heard form fellow cultiest that the no point soup with a bunch of coriander and lemongrass makes a yummy thai -ish sauce for chicken. Do I just cut it up and chuck it into the soup as Im making it? Should it wilt when its cooked or should it still have a firm texture? Im confuzzled

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