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pollyhyper
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posted 11-04-2004 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LazyGoddess:
Looks like shrimp catalina tonight.

Yummmm... can I come over?


ETA: Is that anything like Catalina Chicken?

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LazyGoddess
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posted 11-04-2004 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LazyGoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ummm, dunno. Is Catalina chicken, chicken in a sauce made with catalina dressing, diced tomatoes, onions, green peppers, garlic and seasonings served over rice?

If so, then yes!

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bali
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posted 11-04-2004 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bali   Click Here to Email bali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the quince look like yellow pomogranites... sorta. And when I cut it open (and nearly chop off a finger they are so hard) they look like an apple.
I looked at the Martha stuff.. thanks. I was hoping someone knew more about them.. and ideas for getting into them.

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Princessjeanne
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posted 11-05-2004 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can I eat yogurt that's been expired for two months? I feel so horrible throwing food away that I don't want to but at the same time, I don't want to kill myself. Part of me thinks it's ok, part of me thinks it's a very bad idea.

Any thoughts?

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natalie
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posted 11-05-2004 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for natalie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Princessjeanne:
Can I eat yogurt that's been expired for two months? I feel so horrible throwing food away that I don't want to but at the same time, I don't want to kill myself. Part of me thinks it's ok, part of me thinks it's a very bad idea.

Any thoughts?


Did you open it or is it sealed? What does it smell like?

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yam
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posted 11-06-2004 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If there's no mould it's probably fine. But dang, 2 months? It's so gonna be mouldy.

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amie
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posted 11-06-2004 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't yoghurt, strictly speaking, off milk, anyway? I just don't get that.

Okay, here's a question: Last night, my fries were apparently fried in cottonseed oil. Can you eat any other part of the cotton plant? I was just curious

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Alice
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posted 11-07-2004 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Princessjeanne:
Can I eat yogurt that's been expired for two months?

If it's yoghurt with fruit or other stuff added, remember that even if the yoghurt is OK after two months, the fruit may well have gone off...

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Princessjeanne
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posted 11-07-2004 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's sealed - they're those little tiny single serving containers. I should just toss them. But there in my fridge they sit, day after day....

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noraneither
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posted 11-07-2004 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for noraneither     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bali:
the quince look like yellow pomogranites... sorta. And when I cut it open (and nearly chop off a finger they are so hard) they look like an apple.
I looked at the Martha stuff.. thanks. I was hoping someone knew more about them.. and ideas for getting into them.

Bali, I promise that about a month ago I came on here and did a search on your username and the word "quince," trying to find information!

So without the guidance of Farmer Jo, yet --Everything I've read says that yes, they are normally just that hard. I tried to bake some, but it didn't work and I had to throw them away, which was very sad after the peril in which I put my fingers. I've also read you can poach them. Vegetarians in Paradise is a good source for a lot of fruit and vegetable info, and here's their quince page.

"They dined on quince and slices of mince, served up with a runcible spoon."
- Edward Lear, "The Owl and the Pussycat"

Please let us know what you find; I'd like to try cooking quince, too, but I'm in the same boat not knowing how to go about it.

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yam
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posted 11-07-2004 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My father in law makes delicious quince jelly. I'm not sure what else you could do with them, though. They smell beautiful but don't taste so good fresh. Sort of like inverse durian.

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Drea D
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posted 11-09-2004 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drea D   Click Here to Email Drea D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you freeze regular cow's milk? Has anyone ever done it?

What about eggs? Not in the shell, of course. But would a raw egg be okay to freeze?

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Henna73
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posted 11-09-2004 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henna73   Click Here to Email Henna73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Drea, yes you can freeze both. I don't really care for frozen, then thawed milk though, but that's just me. For the eggs, crack them into ziplocs and write the quantity on the bag (i.e. 2 eggs, 4 eggs). You can then use them for baking. You can also boil the bag in water and make personalized omelets. I believe Neici makes these.

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bali
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posted 11-09-2004 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bali   Click Here to Email bali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
noraneither - I am going to cook them up this weekend... I found a recipe, but it says watch for you fingers. The recipe was to simmer with a vanilla bean and lemon juice. What could be bad... I hope!

Did you know that I am Farmer Jo? hee hee!
I will have to write an article about it!

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Drea D
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posted 11-09-2004 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drea D   Click Here to Email Drea D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Henna!

Bali! Did your username used to be Joanna a long long time ago?

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Princessjeanne
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posted 11-09-2004 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to make omelets (premade) in baggies and then take them for breakfast in the morning. a couple of eggs, some veggies, maybe some precooked brekkie meat (i used turkey canadian bacon), mush it together in the bag, and freeze. Yum!

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noraneither
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posted 11-09-2004 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for noraneither     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bali:
Did you know that I am Farmer Jo? hee hee!

I was very stealthy and, uh, saw it in your profile.

Edited b/c it's my first emoticon on here and I didn't realize they don't have noses.

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Sophie
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posted 11-10-2004 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sophie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, this is going to sound dumb dumb dumb to all you Americans, but is pumpkin pie a savoury dish or a dessert?

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yeefan
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posted 11-10-2004 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yeefan   Click Here to Email yeefan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a dessert, Sophie And quite tasty.

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bali
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posted 11-10-2004 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bali   Click Here to Email bali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope, I was never Joanna - always been bali here.
I feel like a dork... i guess I should read my own profile!
I have tomorrow off and I am going to attempt the quince in the afternoon!

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noraneither
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posted 11-10-2004 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for noraneither     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noo, don't feel like a dork! Feel like the expert you are. But please do report back on the quince experiment.

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bali
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posted 11-12-2004 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bali   Click Here to Email bali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I made the quince sauce... basically I peeled and cored about 10 pounds of the quince, which took the better part of 5 loads of laundry and one kitten's nap time. Then I put them in a big pot with a vanilla bean, juice of a lemon, a cup of water and a cup of sugar and simmered until it became soft and pink and fragrant.

It tastes really good, but i don't think it was worth the work. It is like fancy pants applesauce.
I ate some plain and then put some on vanilla ice cream. That was good.
I am thinking I will save it and pour it over a warm slice of pound cake with ice cream at my next dinner party.
I didn't can it, but I froze it into 2 batches.

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lorp
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posted 11-12-2004 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lorp   Click Here to Email lorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi y'all...

I am curious to know what/ why/ how is it that some hard-boiled aggs are super easy to peel and some are impossible?? 'The boy' eats two HB eggs per day and I am trying to figure out how to cook them so that they are easy to peel... Anybody have any answers???

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jstrizzy
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posted 11-12-2004 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jstrizzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if there's a way to cook them to make them easy to peel, but I've always found that if you crack them all over (try rolling them against a countertop while applying a little pressure), then peel them under running water it's pretty easy. The water gets under the shell and helps it slide off.

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sneakers
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posted 11-13-2004 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sneakers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After they're boiled, put the eggs into really, really cold water, with ice, for maybe 10 minutes or so. I think that helps "shrink" the egg away from the shell, making it easier to peel.

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lorp
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posted 11-14-2004 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lorp   Click Here to Email lorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the tips... I will let you know what I have found to work. My mom read that it has something to do with the age of the egg. If the egg if too fresh, the ph level has something to do with how it peels, i.e. making it difficult, etc. I will do more research and report back. Thanks again.

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Merimoo
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posted 11-14-2004 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merimoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was going to post something last night about the egg age! iirc, the air bubble inside the egg gets bigger as the egg ages, making it easier to peel, which is not mutually exclusive with what you said.

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noraneither
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posted 11-14-2004 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for noraneither     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bali:
I made the quince sauce... It tastes really good, but i don't think it was worth the work.

Hmm. Thanks for reporting back! I'm still kind of fascinated, knowing how much history quince really has as a food, that we don't see it much - except for quince paste, which is quite fashionable here right now -- HEY! Would your sauce work like that, with cheese?

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bali
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posted 11-15-2004 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bali   Click Here to Email bali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we should write a quince article together... your history information, my hands on...

I was thinking I could put it on warm brie.. but really it is like souped up apple sauce, with vanilla.

Re: boiled eggs. Older eggs peel easier. Fresher eggs are more difficult to peel. I learned that from my friend the egg farmer. It has something to do with the air in the egg.

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pollyhyper
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posted 11-15-2004 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does mincemeat taste like?

And what the heck is a treacle tart?

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Drea D
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posted 11-15-2004 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drea D   Click Here to Email Drea D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/europe/british/treacle-tart1.html

treacle, I believe, is molasses.

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natalie
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posted 11-15-2004 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for natalie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The treacle I grew up with had two varieties - light, like corn syrup, and dark, not quite as dark and flavourful as molasses. I used to sneak tastes out of the can while Mom wasn't looking. The famous brand is called Lyles and you can buy it here . I've never used this site so I'm not vouching for it, I just wanted to link to a photo of it. British importers are the most likely place to have it.

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zazzera
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posted 11-16-2004 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zazzera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a food safety question. My dad made me some herb infused olive oil a few weeks ago. (Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, & Thyme-isn't that cute?) Well, I was going to use it for the first time last night and my boyfriend stopped me b/c he noticed it was a little cloudy. The light still goes through it and everything and there are no clumps, but it is noticibally cloudy especially when you hold it up next to some regular oil. It could be contaminated b/c they used fresh herbs from the garden. Whether it is that or just disolved herb essences-does anyone have any advice on whether this is safe to use? I was thinking-even if it is a little contaminated, wouldn't heating the oil knock out any threat? My step mom is a nurse and she still uses their oils even if mold starts growing at the top of the bottle. Any input is greatly appreciated.

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MissMel
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posted 11-16-2004 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MissMel   Click Here to Email MissMel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it's cold in your kitchen, or if you keep the oil in the fridge, it will get cloudy. Even after it warms back up, it never quite goes clear again, even though it's perfectly fine

The only oil I have ever heard of going bad is walnut oil, but I could be wrong.

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zazzera
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posted 11-16-2004 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zazzera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have just had it on the counter, and it's not particularly cold. It could have gotten cold during our move on Friday though-it was freezing and rainy outside and I think the box of herbs and oil was in the van for awhile. If it is bacteria though, will heating make it safe?

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Alice
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posted 11-16-2004 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pollyhyper:
What does mincemeat taste like?

And what the heck is a treacle tart?



You're talking about the sweet variety of "mincemeat" which goes in mince pies? As a vegetarian, it's the only one I'm qualified to describe...

Mincemeat of this sort consists mostly of dried fruit, traditionally raisins, currants and sultanas, along with sugar, brandy, spices and suet. It tastes sweet and fruity but with a sharp edge to it - this probably comes from the brandy. Sometimes apple puree or something similar is added, which enhances the fruit flavour.

These days most mincemeat which you can buy in the UK uses vegetable fat of some sort rather than suet, so that it's suitable for vegetarians and avoids using beef products, which many people over here have been wary about eating in the last few years.

A treacle tart would traditionally be made with "golden syrup" - I think that this is some kind of sugar cane syrup. It's pale gold in colour and tastes incredibly sweet with a slightly "toffee" flavour, but it's nowhere near as strong as molasses. I think that the latter would usually be called "black treacle" or "dark treacle" in the UK (and used to make treacle toffee, but that's another story!).

Treacle tart consists of a pastry case with a layer of golden syrup on top, baked in a low heat oven. The syrup is usually mixed with bread crumbs (or sometimes a flour mixture), and when cooked it turns out sort of caramelised.

I have a great recipe for this - at least, I'm told it's great. I *really* don't like treacle tart myself!


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zazzera
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posted 11-16-2004 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zazzera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nevermind MissMel-I think you're right about the oil getting cold. It must have happened in the van. I just figured out that if it was something growing from the herbs they would probably look funky, and they are still perfect. Thank you for the tip! Tonight-parsely, sage, rosemary, & thyme greenbeans!

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zazzera
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posted 11-16-2004 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zazzera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Drea D:
treacle, I believe, is molasses.

Isn't there a scene in "Alice in Wonderland" where the Mad Hatter is talking about a girl who lives at the bottom of a treacle well (or something like that)? Uh-ew.

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pollyhyper
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posted 11-16-2004 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So if I'm imagining right, then treacle is something like corn syrup? But stronger tasting?

And mincemeat doesn't (usually) have meat in it (these days)?

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Drea D
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posted 11-16-2004 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drea D   Click Here to Email Drea D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They ate treacle tarts in Harry Potter. Like you didn't already know that.

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