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meggo
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posted 05-12-2005 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meggo   Click Here to Email meggo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by settingfiretothislife:
"How do you want your eggs?"

I always order over easy because I love them and cannot duplicate them at home no matter how hard I try.
I can make scrambled eggs though! That's all my mom ever made at home because she hates eggs unless they have onions in them - only way to have onions is scrambled (or omlette).

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pollyhyper
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posted 05-13-2005 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
J will only eat eggs that are scrambled - he is not a fan of the plain yolk. I can deal with scrambled but I prefer over-easy or poached.

My grandmother gave me some egg coddlers, which are like little cups with lids, in which you make coddled eggs. You pour the egg in, close the lid, and put the coddlers into boiling water. Ends up somewhere between a poached and a hard-boiled. Neat, but a pain in the butt.

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EmmaNadine
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posted 05-14-2005 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmmaNadine   Click Here to Email EmmaNadine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you serve a mango? I bought a few at the market the other day, and my first attempt to cut it into nice chunks baffled me. How do you deal with the big hard pit in the middle?

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settingfiretothislife
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posted 05-14-2005 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for settingfiretothislife   Click Here to Email settingfiretothislife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cut around the hard pit in the middle. Stand it up and kind of gauge where the middle is, and cut around it. So you get two nice halves, and the pit. Then, you can score the flesh into cubes, and cut it from the peel to get nice cubes, or you can just scoop out of the half and eat as it is. If you have an orange mango, I like to eat it as is. The harder, green mango, I like it eat it in strips. Green mangos have tart, firm flesh. Orange mangos have soft, sweet flesh.

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blackeyed lulu
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posted 05-14-2005 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blackeyed lulu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what settingfire said,
or just serve a mango apiece and let people rip the skin off and just bite into the whole juicy fruit...mmmm... it's v. messy though, and it takes a few mins to finish gnawing at the giant pit in the middle, which is v. satisfying. uh, this is a pretty savage thing to do though, so definitely not for dinner parties.
when my dad was tiny, his mum used to strip him and the other kids down to their undies, stand them up in the courtyard with a basket full of mangoes and let them go nuts, then just hose them down at the end of it. such fun

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Pavonine
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posted 05-14-2005 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pavonine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The courtyard mango party sounds fun!

Speaking of fun fruits, what can I do with the papaya I bought today? I ate a section of it plain and it was less than fabulous. Any ideas for the rest of it?

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blackeyed lulu
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posted 05-14-2005 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blackeyed lulu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my mum sometimes used papaya to make her meat curry extra special... if it's raw or less than ripe, it makes a good tenderizer. chunk it up and let it sit with the meat pieces and some yogurt... i think. will check with her. but it ripens FAST so maybe tomorrow yours'll be better.

edited because it ripeNs, not ripes.

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greschya
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posted 05-15-2005 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for greschya   Click Here to Email greschya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by meggo:
I always order over easy because I love them and cannot duplicate them at home no matter how hard I try.
I can make scrambled eggs though! That's all my mom ever made at home because she hates eggs unless they have onions in them - only way to have onions is scrambled (or omlette).

MEGGO! I must pass on the Egg Tip That Made Life Beautiful Again, that came from none other than Breana.

Heat some butter in a small skillet, open your eggs and add them. (I open mine into a teacup to make sure the yolk doesn't break, and then slide them into the pan that way.)

Let em cook for a bit (and I break up the thicker white part by poking it with the spatula, and rolling the pan around to make it even) and then put a spoonful of water (I actually just reuse the teacup and put a bit in there from the tap) on top of each yolk, cover, and turn off the heat. The top of the yolk will steam cook, and you never, ever have to try to flip an egg.

Seriously, I think of breana every. single. time I make eggs, and send a little bit of love out to her for her life-changing cooking tip.

(Breana's instructions are in bold, my personal modifications have been added.)

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Nieci
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posted 05-15-2005 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you, *thank* you for posting this again!

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flippygirl
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posted 05-16-2005 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for flippygirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, I bought procuitto instead of pancetta.

a) can I subsitute it in the infamous recipe with peas and pasta?

b) will it freeze ok? what can I make with procuitto that's simple besides wrapping it around melon?

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pollyhyper
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posted 05-16-2005 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by flippygirl:
ok, I bought procuitto instead of pancetta.

a) can I subsitute it in the infamous recipe with peas and pasta?

b) will it freeze ok? what can I make with procuitto that's simple besides wrapping it around melon?



I would think it would be fine to substitute in the peas/pasta recipe.

It's also really good on pizza with sliced tomatos and little dollops of ricotta cheese, and lots of garlic! *droooooooooool*

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Nieci
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posted 05-16-2005 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1) is it really infamous??

2) it's fabulous with pasta.

If you're *really* concerned, throw it in with any pasta dish. It's great, I swear! Especially with any creamy sauce.

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flippygirl
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posted 05-16-2005 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flippygirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, cool. Thanks. I usually don't cook with this stuff so I was confuzzled.

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flippygirl
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posted 05-16-2005 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flippygirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, was it because I used skim? There was little or no real sauce...was it too thin and it got absorbed? It was still good, but I feel like something wasn't quite right....

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Pavonine
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posted 05-19-2005 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pavonine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Belated thanks, lulu, for the papaya tip...I did get some fun out of it by saying "papaya!" like the guy in the scratch 'n' win lottery ad.

(that might just be an atlantic canada thing, I realise. anyhow...papaya!)

/tangent and begin real cooking question time:

why does my freshly minced garlic sometimes turn neon greeny-blue after being baked on top of fish? Sometimes this happens in the presence of different kinds of acid, sometimes not. It's always freaky.

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Sonya
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posted 05-19-2005 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sonya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by meggo:
Recipe please....


Okay, two weeks later and I've FINALLY remembered. (Sorry! :eek This comes from the M00sewood New Classics book (p. 75 in case anyone wanted to know):

2 lbs. tomatillos (approx. 18)
4-5 c. chopped onion
1 TB. olive oil
8 cloves of garlic, chopped
6 c. peeled and cubed winter squash
6 c. veggie stock
3 c. undrained tomatoes, chopped (28 oz. can)
1-2 tsp. minced chipotle peppers in adobo sauce
salt and pepper to taste.

Preheat oven to 450 degrees.

Husk and wash tomatillos well. Cut them in half and place them cut side up on a baking sheet. Roast for 30-35 minutes or until soft. (I suggest using nonstick spray and a piece of aluminum foil or Si1pat or something, because it can get a little messy.)

Meanwhile in a large soup pot, cook onion in oil on medium heat for about 10 minutes or until golden. Add garlic and cook a few minutes longer. Stir in the squash, stock, and tomatoes and their juice, cover and bring to a boil. Lower the heat and simmer for 15-25 mins or until squash is tender. Add chipotles and tomatillos.

At this point, I like to stick my immersion blender in a blend away until very smooth. If you use a regular blender, be careful to vent the top, or you WILL have boiling soup all over you and the kitchen. NOT fun. Return the soup to the pot and season with salt and pepper, and perhaps more chipotle pepper as you like.

They suggest you top with sour cream, chopped cilantro, more chipotle peppers, avocado cubes, corn kernels, or crumbled tortilla chips, or any combination of the above. I like to do one or two key toppings in the bowl (like strips of cheese and avocado cubes), ladle the soup over those one or two toppings, and then pass a variety of other toppings in separate bowls so people can do their own soup.

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Nieci
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posted 05-20-2005 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by flippygirl:
ok, was it because I used skim? There was little or no real sauce...was it too thin and it got absorbed? It was still good, but I feel like something wasn't quite right....

I didn't even *notice* Yee-fan's recipe! Sorry for the negative response earlier (about infamousness) I hadn't seen her recipe, tho after checking it out, it sounds so much healthier than mine!

When I make my pasta with proscuitto (and I've *just* discovered the joys of pancetta! Yay!) in a creamy sauce, I almost always make an alfredo (an entire stick of butter, 1/2 pint of heavy cream, 1 cup of locatelli) or with a gorgonzola sauce. Like I said, hers sounds much healthier.

Maybe if you used full-fat milk or added a little butter?

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BerdsTheWord
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posted 05-20-2005 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BerdsTheWord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never posted in this thread becuase I don't cook so I dont' have any questions, but also because I don't cook so I don't have any answers to other people's questions!

However, I now have a question--it doesn't exactly involve cooking, but... If I open a can of fruit (fruit cocktail in the syrup stuff) and don't eat it all at once, does anyone know how long I can keep it in the fridge? I know it's a silly question, but I couldn't find it anywhere on the can...

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geogirl
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posted 05-20-2005 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure how long you can keep it, but I do know that you can NOT store it in the can, transfer it to a plastic container! You probably already know that I just want to make sure that no fellow digsters get poisoned!

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blackeyed lulu
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posted 05-20-2005 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blackeyed lulu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pavonine, my garlic does that too! in fact, when i tried roasted chicken ala digs, it did just that! i did the oh so scientific nibble-on-a-bit-to-see-if-it's-okay-or-if-it-kills-you-instantly test and it seems just as garlicky and wonderful, just dressed for mardi gras.

which reminds me, over to What You're Cooking Today.

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yeefan
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posted 05-20-2005 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yeefan   Click Here to Email yeefan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey flip, just saw your question about the pasta with pancetta and peas. The sauce as I make it isn't like an alfredo; just kind of a light gloss to coat the noodles and give them flavor. You can add more heavy cream (or as Nieci suggested, use full fat milk) to make for a saucier sauce. Hope that helps!

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BerdsTheWord
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posted 05-20-2005 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BerdsTheWord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good point. I usually transfer things to a plastic container anyway so that I can seal it, but you never know, if I get in a hurry, I would be likely to throw the whole can in there, so thanks for the reminder!

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bali
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posted 05-20-2005 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bali   Click Here to Email bali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have used fat free condensed milk in sauce cooking - it is thicker then regular skim.

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ng-la
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posted 05-20-2005 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ng-la   Click Here to Email ng-la     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've used Fat free condensed milk to cook with too, usually when the recipe calls for half and half or cream. I've always had good results. It's also great to substitute in for creamy soups.

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pollyhyper
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posted 05-20-2005 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They also make a creamy skim milk now - don't ask me how they do it! (and I haven't tried it so I can't vouch)

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Sonya
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posted 05-20-2005 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sonya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by flippygirl:
ok, was it because I used skim? There was little or no real sauce...was it too thin and it got absorbed? It was still good, but I feel like something wasn't quite right....

You know what else? Some pasta just absorbs more water/liquid from sauce than others. Maybe it was your particular brand of pasta. If my sauce isn't saucey enough, I usually add a little bit of the pasta cooking water.

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amie
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posted 05-20-2005 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by geogirl:
I'm not sure how long you can keep it, but I do know that you can NOT store it in the can, transfer it to a plastic container! You probably already know that I just want to make sure that no fellow digsters get poisoned!

Okay, I don't want this to end up in the idiot thread, but why would you get poisoned? The CAN isn't toxic, because the food is in there?!? I don't get it...

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ralphyr
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posted 05-20-2005 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ralphyr   Click Here to Email ralphyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
amie,don't worry you are not stupid. Cans are lined with a thin coat of plastic and when sealed are fine. Once opened both the air and the contents can break down the can and the metal can start to rust. That is also why cans with dints or bulges shouldn't be used because the lining could be damaged.

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settingfiretothislife
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posted 05-20-2005 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for settingfiretothislife   Click Here to Email settingfiretothislife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ralphyr:
That is also why cans with dints or bulges shouldn't be used because the lining could be damaged.

Actually, I heard that a can that's bulging is filled with botulism bacteria. The bacteria's chemical reactions make the can bulge from the gases. Yuck!

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Sonya
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posted 05-21-2005 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sonya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's definitely a big reason why cans bulge-- that happens if something was accidentally contaminated during the canning process, and then the cans bulge by themselves, because the botulism makes the contents expand, for whatever reason. (And did you know that botulism can leave you PARALYZED for several weeks? Or kill you, obviously.)

But the other reason, which I find more prevalent at MY grocery store is because of careless stockers who drop stuff and dent it, and then put it on the shelf. That's the part ralphyr was talking about, where the can's lining gets damaged and the bad stuff in the actual can (like aluminum and formerly lead) will leach into the food. And the can will rust. Yummy!

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becca11
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posted 05-21-2005 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for becca11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sonya:
That's definitely a big reason why cans bulge-- that happens if something was accidentally contaminated during the canning process, and then the cans bulge by themselves, because the botulism makes the contents expand, for whatever reason. (And did you know that botulism can leave you PARALYZED for several weeks? Or kill you, obviously.)

But the other reason, which I find more prevalent at MY grocery store is because of careless stockers who drop stuff and dent it, and then put it on the shelf. That's the part ralphyr was talking about, where the can's lining gets damaged and the bad stuff in the actual can (like aluminum and formerly lead) will leach into the food. And the can will rust. Yummy!


rust only occurs when you get small pinholes that let air in. no air, no rust.

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settingfiretothislife
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posted 05-21-2005 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for settingfiretothislife   Click Here to Email settingfiretothislife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"...be sure to take the bird out of the oven as soon as the juices from the chicken are running clear (meaning there are no traces of blood in the juices)."

What does that really mean? Does that mean the juices in the bottom of the pan? Is there any other way to check is the chicken is done? I don't want to make it dry, but I don't want to food poison my family, either. It'll be my first time handling a bird, eeek.

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Merimoo
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posted 05-21-2005 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merimoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I usually stick a knife in the chicken to test. In the cut, juice will well up and that's where I look for it running clear. Does that make sense?

Re: botulism - that's what they derived B0t0x from! Can you imagine purposefully putting something like that in your body? /end tangent

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MissMel
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posted 05-21-2005 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MissMel   Click Here to Email MissMel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ONLY surefire way to test if your poultry is done is too take its temperature. Sometimes, depending on how well it was butchered, the marrow of the breast can come through and show red juices even when it is fully cooked and safe to eat. It should have an interior temp of 165º Farenheit. Turkey is slightly different in that the dark meat should read 185ºF, while the white meat of the breast stays at 165ºF. If the breast comes to temp first or vise versa, you can just put some tin foil over the respecticve area and that should slow down the cooking process enough to let the other half catch up.

Just stick the gauge into the thickest part of the meat, and wait for the temp to level off. (You can get a meat thermometer at the grocery store for under $5 US. It'll be the best money you spend for anything in your kitchen.) Also, make sure that the gauge isn't touching any bone, 'cause that would give you a false read. The same temperature goes for chicken broth, too.

When you cook any meat, it will have 'carry-over' once you stop actively cooking it (when you take it out of the oven). The temperature actually rises when you let it rest and this will make for a juicer meat by letting the juices re-distribute themselves within the meat. If you cut into it right away, the juices will come pouring out and the meat will end up dry. It will only rise about 5-10 degrees, so don't depend on this to bring your chicken to 165ºF. I usually just take the bird out of the oven, put it on the serving platter and cover it (lightly) with some tin foil while I make the pan gravy, which usually takes about 10 minutes and is the last thing I do before sitting down to eat.

Also, make sure to wash your hands and anything that came in contact with the raw meat before you touch anything else. I usually clean the chicken right in the sink with the water turned on before I unwrap the bird to make it easier to control the 'contamination'. Better safe than sorry!

Down with Salmonella!

[This message has been edited by MissMel (edited 05-21-2005).]

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Nieci
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posted 05-24-2005 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Merimoo:
Re: botulism - that's what they derived B0t0x from! Can you imagine purposefully putting something like that in your body? /end tangent

ewewew!!!!

And also, MissMel, thanks for the degree clarifications! I was going to suggest a meat thermometer - just don't push it all the way to the bone!!

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geogirl
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posted 05-24-2005 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Boy made a HUGE pot of chilli on Sat. I'm still eating it today (probably the last day). If I freeze the rest today will it be OK? I know I'm pushing it, should I just throw the rest away?

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pollyhyper
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posted 05-24-2005 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by geogirl:
Boy made a HUGE pot of chilli on Sat. I'm still eating it today (probably the last day). If I freeze the rest today will it be OK? I know I'm pushing it, should I just throw the rest away?


You can heat the whole pot back up and then cool it back down and freeze it, and it should be fine.

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jstrizzy
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posted 05-24-2005 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jstrizzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why the heating back up? Just curious.

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bekkaboo
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posted 05-24-2005 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bekkaboo   Click Here to Email bekkaboo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A general rule for stuff in the fridge is it's good for 7 days - you should be able to freeze it OK. And you shouldn't really need to heat it back up unless it's been out at room temperature for a while. (4 hours is when it's not safe to reheat hot foods/cool back down cold foods - if you have ANY food out at room temperature for more than 4 hours, throw it out. If it's supposed to be hot/cold, that is, obviously don't throw out food that can be kept at room temperature!)

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geogirl
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posted 05-24-2005 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you! That's just what I wanted to hear!

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