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ziola
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posted 03-06-2005 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ziola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jinxie:
If I can trust Alton Brown [and I think I can...he's like the Mr. Wizard of food] paper bags are actually the ideal way to store mushrooms. And they should go in the fridge. Even then, though, they don't last long, so you should try and use 'em up within a few days.

I agree, paper bags are perfect for mushrooms (in fact, all the stores around here put paper bags next to the mushrooms in the produce section). They still don't last forever, but their texture seems to keep better in paper than plastic.

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noraneither
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posted 03-06-2005 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for noraneither     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Badger badger badger badger badger

Mushroom, mushroom.

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jstrizzy
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posted 03-06-2005 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jstrizzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Jinxie and Ziola, but it turned out not to be necessary -- I used the mushrooms tonight!

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meggo
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posted 03-08-2005 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meggo   Click Here to Email meggo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't decide if this is a cooking question, a crafting question - or a storage question.
But I think it belongs here. (if not - feel free to move it).

I was on craftster - looking at the ways people store spices. One thing they had was putting the spices in cute little round boxes & magneting them to the fridge.
One person had the idea of putting a strip of metal (there is a rack thing from ikea) up above the stove & sticking them all to that thing - instead of the fridge.
I was thinking how cool this would be - but then I thought I remembered something about how it was bad to store spices above the stove?
True or false?

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LazyGoddess
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posted 03-08-2005 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LazyGoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by noraneither:
Badger badger badger badger badger

Mushroom, mushroom.


heh heh hee...drat now it's going to be stuck in my head...

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pollyhyper
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posted 03-08-2005 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by meggo:
I was thinking how cool this would be - but then I thought I remembered something about how it was bad to store spices above the stove?
True or false?

I've also heard that it's bad to store spices above the stove, I assume b/c they get hot-cold-hot-cold, etc. and the temp change as well as drying out would affect the flavor. Having said that, I ask you: where the heck else are you supposed to keep them? When I cook, I need my spices to all be within arm's reach.

If you're going to do the tins/magnets idea (which I've been meaning to do for AGES) then you'll probably only be able to fit a little in the tin at a time, and just refill them often. I would say it wouldn't matter so much then; just keep the larger refill containers somewhere dark and cool.

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Nieci
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posted 03-08-2005 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pollyhyper:
I've also heard that it's bad to store spices above the stove, I assume b/c they get hot-cold-hot-cold, etc. and the temp change as well as drying out would affect the flavor. Having said that, I ask you: where the heck else are you supposed to keep them? When I cook, I need my spices to all be within arm's reach.

I keep mine in a dark cabinet and take out what I need only when I need them. I just can't bring myself to throw them away after a few months - I keep mine forever. I know you're *supposed* to toss them due to flavor loss, but I so rarely use spices (prefer fresh herbs MUCH more) that I just wind up keeping them.

Out of curiosity, which spices do you guys go through fastest? I definitely go through quite a bit of ground cumin, chili powder and curry spices in the winter months.

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meggo
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posted 03-08-2005 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meggo   Click Here to Email meggo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See - the reason I'm liking the magnet things idea - we have all these spices (some of them - I'm not even sure when I've ever used them...) and they're on a double lazy susan in the cupboard & I can barely see what is even there.
So I was hoping to cull through & put them on the fridge...

I go through a lot of the citrus peels or zests or whatever they are. I don't use them often, but every recipe that uses them calls for a lot. And cumin. Cinnamon...

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geogirl
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posted 03-08-2005 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I go through a head of garlic/week pretty much, lots of rosemary, oregano & basil

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Sonya
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posted 03-08-2005 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sonya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We go through tons of garlic (and onions too, for that matter), chili powder, and cumin. As far as herbs go, I definitely have been using a lot of thyme and bay leaves, although I have fresh oregano and rosemary growing in my studio which I use all the time.

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Henna73
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posted 03-08-2005 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henna73   Click Here to Email Henna73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I go through granulated garlic, cumin, peppercorns, cinnamon and specialty spices (from Penzey's) the most. I try to use fresh herbs whenever possible, but sometimes it is hard to find them in the winter in WI. I grow most of my own in the summer and dry what I can't use right away for future use.

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noraneither
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posted 03-08-2005 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for noraneither     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I usually try to have fresh green onions and cilantro in the fridge; I find that those seem to keep well enough that I can use them before they wilt. I sometimes buy fresh basil, but it doesn't seem to keep as well. I also use a lot of garlic, fresh ginger, chili peppers, and, lately, sesame seeds. I seem to use a lot of cayenne/chili powder/red pepper flakes, and sometimes ground ginger or cumin.

For a while I really wanted to make one of those magnetic spice racks, but then I had the same thought about the heat. I like to buy my spices in bulk, so I really need to come up with an inexpensive, flexible storage method that is better than plastic baggies.

[This message has been edited by noraneither (edited 03-08-2005).]

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quarkiegirl
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posted 03-08-2005 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quarkiegirl   Click Here to Email quarkiegirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i just far too many mini wh0pper eggs, and i'm wondering, what exactly is malted milk?

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posted 03-08-2005 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geckogurl   Click Here to Email geckogurl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by quarkiegirl:
i just far too many mini wh0pper eggs, and i'm wondering, what exactly is malted milk?

ta da!

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meggo
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posted 03-08-2005 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meggo   Click Here to Email meggo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so... malted milk balls contain something relating to barley... do they then count as a high fiber food??

I do know - that when dropped out a car window on to a windshield while the wiper blades are on - they can fly quite a distance.... um... er - so I'm told

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Nieci
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posted 03-09-2005 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sonya:
We go through tons of garlic (and onions too, for that matter), chili powder, and cumin. As far as herbs go, I definitely have been using a lot of thyme and bay leaves, although I have fresh oregano and rosemary growing in my studio which I use all the time.

So I have two questions: 1) is garlic considered a vegetable? what *is* it? Is it an herb? I don't think I've ever thought about that before....

and 2) Sonya, how are you growing your herbs? I haven't had any luck with my basil plant -poo, it's sulking in a sunny windowsill with 3 poorly little leaves right now. I also had a very lovely and huge rosemary bush a year and a half ago, but I kept it outside, and when the cold weather came, it died. Can I grow these guys inside? And if so, how? And why does my basil plant hate me so?

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pollyhyper
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posted 03-09-2005 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speaking of spices, I'd like to "register" (officially or not) for one of those big wall-mounted spice racks that comes filled with (high-quality) spices, for our wedding. Any suggestions where to look?

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Henna73
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posted 03-09-2005 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henna73   Click Here to Email Henna73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if they have spice racks, but I love their spices www.penzeys.com I got a Wedding Box from my aunt when we got married and I think I have used it more than any other wedding gift.

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Princessjeanne
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posted 03-09-2005 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I second the Penzey's suggestion - they offer a bunch of starter kit type things, and their spices are absolutely top quality. Recommended in Food & Wine, Gourmet, etc.

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Merimoo
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posted 03-09-2005 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merimoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I generally buy spices & herbs out of the bulk containers at Whole Foods or Wild Oats, because I can get 50 cents worth, great if I don't use it very often. Everything I've read says that heat and light cause the oils in spices to deteriorate, which is why putting them near the stove isn't advised.

One of my friends from high school is now a horticulturist at the local nursery, and she said that rosemary is just darn hard to keep alive inside, and that most people overwater it. I have mine in clay pots for that reason.

Garlic is a member of the allium family, which includes onions and some other bulbalicious things. I think that would put it more on the veggie side, but I'm not certain about it.

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daisy
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posted 03-09-2005 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daisy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone tell me what rapini is?

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Princessjeanne
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posted 03-09-2005 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to google, rapini is the same thing as broccoli raab or broccoli rabe.

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ralphyr
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posted 03-09-2005 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ralphyr   Click Here to Email ralphyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like this description of it;
Rapini is not a mild-flavored, namby-pamby vegetable. It is one of the bitter greens – prized for its assertive flavor, with a pungency and bite that inspires less potent partners such as pasta, rice, polenta or potatoes, but also plays well with other foods with big tastes and seasonings – garlic, sausages, portable mushrooms and the like.
We get choy sum here but I suspect it is more namby-pamby with its non-assertive flavour.

rapini

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pollyhyper
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posted 03-10-2005 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just like the term "namby-pamby".

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daisy
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posted 03-10-2005 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daisy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey thanks guys. I had a pasta with rapini in it the other day and I couldn't figure out which part was the rapini. Now I know that it was the green stuff. My oh my was it tasty!

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Sonya
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posted 03-10-2005 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sonya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nieci:
Sonya, how are you growing your herbs? I haven't had any luck with my basil plant -poo, it's sulking in a sunny windowsill with 3 poorly little leaves right now. I also had a very lovely and huge rosemary bush a year and a half ago, but I kept it outside, and when the cold weather came, it died. Can I grow these guys inside? And if so, how? And why does my basil plant hate me so?

Well, I'm certainly not the expert on growing spices, and I seem to have sort of a black thumb with inside plants, but I've had lots of louck with my oregano and rosemary. I would buy an already established plant (don't try to start it from seed unless you are an already accomplished gardener), repot it with nice soil and fertilizer, and then place it in a north-or-south facing window with a lot of light and not too much draft. Actually a lot of oregano died because it's cold over in its window, but it is very hearty, so I pinched off most of the plant and it's started to grow back.

How old is your basil plant? Even with pinching it back, it's not going to last more than a couple of months. I kept my basil and verbena going as long as I could inside, but unfortunately it doesn't last all winter. So I made a lot of pesto while it was good and froze it, and that should last me through the rest of the winter.

If you want to have your plants outside during the summer and then bring them in for the winter, you can certainly do that, but make sure they get lots of light. Rosemary and sage will usually last the winter outside, but during a particularly disgusting winter, sometimes they just die, and there's not much one can do about it, other than covering the ground with black plastic covers. I think the bigger the plants, the better chance you've got.

Good luck! And it may just be time to say good bye to your basil and get a new plant.

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meggo
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posted 03-10-2005 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meggo   Click Here to Email meggo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sonya:
I would buy an already established plant (don't try to start it from seed unless you are an already accomplished gardener)

I read this as buying an elderly plant and I was trying to figure out how that would be better. But I do second the notion on buying one that is already growing.

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Nieci
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posted 03-13-2005 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I originally bought an already established basil plant, but maybe I picked from it too soon??

Anyway. New question. Today I ventured into the art of lemon meringue. I loved Epi's crust for his keylime, so I used his recipe for crust, only I subbed almonds for the macademias. Still smelled (and tasted) just as good, and I used a few various recipes to adapt my own lemony filling. I used Yam's recipe for the meringue and adapted that a bit too - and it all tastes absolutely DELISH, however, my meringue was lightly browned all over - almost like a crisped top. Did I have the temp too high (at 350F)? Cooked it for 30 min, and the taste is def fab, but not what I expected for a lemon meringue.

Then again, after I made Epi's keylime, it wasn't what I expected either, fab as it was.

Do I really need to lower the temp and cook it for hours?

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noraneither
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posted 03-13-2005 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for noraneither     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The last time I made a meringue pie was Thanksgiving. The recipe said once you put the meringue on to cook for 12-15 minutes at 350, and that worked perfectly. I wouldn't lower the heat and cook it longer; I think that would dry it out and it would like meringue cookies, which are also nice but not what you want on top of your pie.

When my mom makes meringue pie, she taught me to make little peaks in the meringue with the back of a spoon. When those start to brown, you're done.

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Nieci
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posted 03-13-2005 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Nora!

I did that with the back of the spoon before baking, but it still wasn't what you'd expect to find at a bakery.

Maybe it's ok tho - it tastes perfect, and it's still pretty, but the meringue ness of it all isn't what I expected - it's a *teensy* bit fluffy, but definitely not an inch and a half high. I kind of like the crisp top tho....I don't know. It's just different. The taste is perfect, and while it's still pretty, it's not what I expected it to look like...

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pollyhyper
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posted 03-14-2005 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, droooooooooooooooooool.....
Lemon. Meringue. Pie.

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Merimoo
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posted 03-14-2005 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merimoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it humid where you are? It won't beat up completely if it's humid, or if there's ANY oil in the bowl or on the beaters.

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zazzera
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posted 03-15-2005 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zazzera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pollyhyper:
Speaking of spices, I'd like to "register" (officially or not) for one of those big wall-mounted spice racks that comes filled with (high-quality) spices, for our wedding. Any suggestions where to look?

Well, this is the classic. It's a shame I don't work there anymore, I could've gotten you a discount.

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bali
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posted 03-15-2005 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bali   Click Here to Email bali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could look into these, Penzy has great spices - I covet the big wedding box of spices!
http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/c-Gift_Boxes.html?id=Ya6AmR43

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pollyhyper
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posted 03-15-2005 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by zazzera:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by pollyhyper:
[b]Speaking of spices, I'd like to "register" (officially or not) for one of those big wall-mounted spice racks that comes filled with (high-quality) spices, for our wedding. Any suggestions where to look?

Well, this is the classic. It's a shame I don't work there anymore, I could've gotten you a discount.

[/B][/QUOTE]

The large one of these is very similar to (but not as large as) the one I remember seeing.... hmmm, I'm wondering now if it was at epicuriousDOTcom, maybe I'll check there. It was huge and beautiful.

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TinyGirl
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posted 03-18-2005 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TinyGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, my grocery store has blood oranges. They are super yummy! I was wondering if anybody knows what else I can do with them, besides of course just peeling and eating. They are so pretty! and YUM!

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noraneither
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posted 03-18-2005 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for noraneither     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I invented (I'm sure it's been done before) a cocktail of blood orange juice and sake and called it a "Rising Sun." It was good. I also plan to try a blood orange vinaigrette when I get some more blood oranges.

Oh yeah, and here's an article originally from the LA Times on blood oranges.

I'd love more ideas, too.

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posted 03-18-2005 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gemini   Click Here to Email gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TinyGirl:
I was wondering if anybody knows what else I can do with them, besides of course just peeling and eating.

I've had a delicious blood orange margarita at a Mexican restaurant I went to recently. Ooh! And there's this: http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink7273.html

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jstrizzy
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posted 03-18-2005 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jstrizzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A few very thin slices are pretty on top of a salad. And I think I remember a Rachel Ray salad where she cut the segments out of a blood orange to use in a salad, letting the juice that dripped out as she cut collect in a bowl, and then used that juice in the dressing.

You can also use the juice in marinades where you'd normally use orange or lemon juice.

I love the blood orange olive oil from a local producer, but I'm not sure you could do something like that yourself...

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posted 03-18-2005 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ng-la   Click Here to Email ng-la     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always wanted to try this, but, as of yet have not:


BLOOD ORANGE SORBET

The juice of blood oranges makes a dramatic presentation in this dish. Its intense (some might even say ghoulish) color provides a wonderful contrast when paired with pale, thin butter cookies.

7 or 8 blood oranges
Approximately 3/4 cup simple syrup (see note at end of this recipe)
2 egg whites
1 tablespoon Grand Marnier
1)Juice oranges, leaving some of the pulp for texture. You’ll need a total of 1-1/2 cups juice and pulp combined.

2)In a mixing bowl, combine juice and pulp with 1/2 cup of simple syrup. Add more syrup in 2-ounce increments until you have the sweetness you desire. Remember, when frozen the sorbet will lose some of its sweetness.

3)Whip the egg whites in a clean bowl until foamy but with no peaks showing. Swish into the juice mixture with a wire whip.

4)Pour into an ice cream maker such as a Donvier or other hand crank model that requires no electricity or salt. Follow directions. Just before the sorbet totally solidifies, add the Grand Marnier. (Alcohol raises the freezing temperature so you shouldn’t put it in until the mixture is almost frozen.) Serve immediately or put into the freezer until you’re ready to serve. Allow to soften slightly before serving.

5)If you don’t have an ice cream maker, put the juice mixture into a shallow pan and freeze. When ready to serve, put in a food processor to puree until smooth and serve immediately.

Serves 4.

Simple Syrup: Combine 1 cup water and 2 cups sugar in saucepan and bring to boil over medium-high heat. Boil 30-45 seconds until syrup is clear, stirring to make sure sugar is dissolved. Cool and store in the refrigerator. Makes 2 cups.

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