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Author Topic:   everything you always wanted to know about cooking but were afraid to ask
pollyhyper
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posted 05-04-2004 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kellyrae, I would just toss it. It's not worth getting food poisoning over.

I have a question. How do they make fat-free Pam fat-free, if oil is nothing but fat?

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FunPun
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posted 05-04-2004 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FunPun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pollyhyper:
I have a question. How do they make fat-free Pam fat-free, if oil is nothing but fat?

I think it's not *really* fat free, but the amount of fat in one spray is small enough that they can technically call it "fat free." Like, if a serving is a one-second spray, and that has .2 grams of fat (I just picked a number for the example), that's small enough for them to say that a serving is fat free.

But if you sprayed your pan or cookie sheet for, say, 10 seconds, you'd be talking about 2 grams of fat. And, theoretically, 10 servings.

Tricky tricky, those food companies.

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pollyhyper
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posted 05-04-2004 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, that's kind of what I was afraid you'd say.

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crowjoy
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posted 05-04-2004 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crowjoy   Click Here to Email crowjoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kellyrae:
So, last night I went to Phil's. I took a London Broil-type steak (I don't know what it's really called) out of my freezer, and put it in my car to bring to his house. We would defrost it in his fridge and eat it for dinner on Wednesday. (OC Finale!)

But, um, I left it in the car. Overnight. I realized this in the morning, and just now brought it into work and put it into the work fridge. The low was about 45 last night, I think. It was frozen to start.

Do I need to throw it out?


I think we've established that I have an iron gut but unless it got actually warm I'd probably eat it. I defrost things in the sink/on the counter against all advice all the time. Insert standard "if you get sick it's not my fault" disclaimer here.

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yam
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posted 05-04-2004 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if it was still frozen in the middle when you stuck it in the fridge, it's prolly fine. just cook it soon and make sure it gets up to a safe temperature and you'll be fine.

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Lulue
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posted 05-04-2004 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I say just eat it as well, you can be the crash test dummy, if you don't show up here on Thursday we'll know it wasn't such a good idea

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poppy
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posted 05-05-2004 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for poppy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have some questions about cast iron skillets. I know you have to "season" them, but what exactly is this and how often should it be done?

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Nieci
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posted 05-05-2004 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this link for you:

http://www.kitchenemporium.com/info/castiron.html

Which reminds me, I need to reseason mine because there's a bit of rust on it.

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pollyhyper
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posted 05-05-2004 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After you wash and dry your cast-iron, you need to place it on the stove or in the oven until it is COMPLETELY DRY or it will start rusting immediately. After that, you can season it by rubbing some oil (vegetable, olive) into the iron. You will see/feel it seeping in. Let it sit for a few, then wipe of any excess with a paper towel. I always put mine back on the heat again for a little bit after I've done this.
Some people "season" every time; I don't know if that's totally necessary.

[This message has been edited by pollyhyper (edited 05-05-2004).]

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gemini
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posted 05-05-2004 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gemini   Click Here to Email gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I took this from a website called "kitchen emporium." The only thing this person says that I might disagree with is the cleaning method recommended. I just use a towel dipped in olive oil to clean cast iron unless it's really dirty. If you use water, be sure to wipe the pan dry before you put it away. And NEVER let it sit in a sink full of water.

Seasoning Cast Iron:

New Pans
Heat the oven to 250o - 300o
Coat the pan with lard or bacon grease. Don't use a liquid vegetable oil because it will leave a sticky surface and the pan will not be properly seasoned.
Put the pan in the oven. In 15 minutes, remove the pan & pour out any excess grease. Place the pan back in the oven and bake for 2 hours.
Repeating this process several times is recommended as it will help create a stronger "seasoning" bond.

Caring for Cast Iron Cookware:
Seasoning a cast iron pan is a natural way of creating non-stick cookware. And, like you cook and clean the modern non-stick cookware with special care to avoid scratching the surface, your cast iron cookware wants some special attention too.

Clean the cookware while it is still hot by rinsing with hot water and scraping when necessary. Do not use a scouring pad or soap (detergent) as they will break down the pan's seasoning.

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Merimoo
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posted 05-05-2004 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merimoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lodge has a preseasoned cast iron line with the seasoning baked in. The lady at the store said it's great stuff.

[This message has been edited by Merimoo (edited 05-05-2004).]

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poppy
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posted 05-05-2004 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for poppy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone!

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ng-la
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posted 05-05-2004 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ng-la   Click Here to Email ng-la     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding cast iron pans- if it's the least bit humid, store them with a paper towell lying inside. It'll help absorb any extra moisture and keep them from rusting.

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muppet_girl
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posted 05-18-2004 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for muppet_girl   Click Here to Email muppet_girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I took a sausage and squash dish out of the fridge at 6 am and it didn't get refrigerated again til 8:30. In the meantime it was in the a/c and out of the sun. Try or toss? What's your opinion?

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Princessjeanne
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posted 05-18-2004 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd probably eat it, but then again I will eat just about anything. Don't listen to crazy people on the internet! Bad!

Anyway. It was only a couple of hours, and if it's already cooked and you're going to heat it up anyways, what's the harm? I'd do it.

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Nieci
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posted 05-18-2004 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd eat it.

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muppet_girl
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posted 05-18-2004 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for muppet_girl   Click Here to Email muppet_girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great. That's what I was going to do, but now I've got back-up. Tanks!

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kellyrae
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posted 05-18-2004 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kellyrae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh! I forgot to tell you guys - I ate the steak and it was fine. Just in case anyone was sitting there, just dying to know what happened.

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LazyGoddess
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posted 05-18-2004 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LazyGoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rice.

What are the differences in type and what is each used for? Ie: Jasmine, Basamati. I've got the whole long-grain, wild, white rice thing down. The rest leaves me wondering if I should just avoid it all together.

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Nieci
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posted 05-18-2004 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kelly, I have been laying awake nights wondering about that

Regarding rice, jasmine and basmati are aromatic rices used frequently in indian and thai. I heart them both

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LazyGoddess
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posted 05-18-2004 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LazyGoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sooo, what's the difference between aromatic and regular rice? I. am. such. a. dork.

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Nieci
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posted 05-18-2004 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They smell and taste different...more perfumey.

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gemini
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posted 05-18-2004 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gemini   Click Here to Email gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I freeze goat cheese, will it thaw with the same (or at least similar) texture, or will freezing it make it gross and weird? How about ricotta and cottage cheese?

I always freeze hard cheeses with no problems, but I don't know about these.

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danamuffin
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posted 05-20-2004 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for danamuffin   Click Here to Email danamuffin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
gemini, I did a quick search on google and came up with a few sites. I don't have any first-hand experience with freezing cheese.
here's one and here's another one

here's my question to you guys...

What is a good way to toast nuts (such as walnuts, almonds, etc)?

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fluffygurl
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posted 05-20-2004 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffygurl   Click Here to Email fluffygurl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To toast nuts just put them in a hot dry pan, toss them around for about 5 minutes or until you start to smell them or they change colour. Be careful not to let them burn. I love toasting pine nuts then dumping them in salads when they are still warm. mmmm

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Nieci
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posted 05-20-2004 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can also spread them on a baking sheet and bake them until they change color.

LOVE toasted pine nuts!

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Drea D
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posted 05-25-2004 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drea D   Click Here to Email Drea D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you pronounce "Nanaimo"? As in Nanaimo bars?

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yam
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posted 05-25-2004 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nah-NEYE-moh, rhymes with ma rhino.

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yam
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posted 05-25-2004 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
or a LIME, yo!

hee hee hee the word nanaimo totally just went all weird on me because I read it too many times in a row.

there's a stop on the skytrain (like a subway) here called nanaimo and it used to have a recorded voice saying "the next station is.. naNAIIIIIIImo" in a really ridiculous way. but now it's a different recorded voice that sounds pretty normal.

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natalie
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posted 05-26-2004 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for natalie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yam:
or a LIME, yo!

hee hee hee the word nanaimo totally just went all weird on me because I read it too many times in a row.

there's a stop on the skytrain (like a subway) here called nanaimo and it used to have a recorded voice saying "the next station is.. naNAIIIIIIImo" in a really ridiculous way. but now it's a different recorded voice that sounds pretty normal.


Tee hee, I forgot about that! Yay for the new skytrain!

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jstrizzy
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posted 05-26-2004 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jstrizzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so what's a nanaimo bar?

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natalie
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posted 05-26-2004 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for natalie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jstrizzy:
so what's a nanaimo bar?

A gift to humanity! Ok, so it's like a cookie square with different layers:

- bottom is a chocolatey coconutty brownie type layer
- then a layer of yellowish sweet yummy stuff that's made out of a ton of icing sugar and I don't know what else
- then topped with chocolate.

Can anyone elaborate on the middle part?

I have no idea why they're called Nanaimo bars, but I can tell you Nanaimo is a town on Vancouver Island, half hippies and half millworkers. I don't know if it's named after another city somewhere else - I don't think so because I think it is the name of a First Nations band in the area.

Edited to add that I always ate the chocolate first, licked off the yellow part and then my sister ate the coconut part when I was a kid because I hated coconut...

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yam
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posted 05-26-2004 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The middle part is pretty much just buttery icing. Mmmm.

And yup, it's named for the city of Nanaimo. Church ladies from Nanaimo invented them. There's a big debate about WHICH church ladies, since the earliest copies of the recipe are in 3 different church cookbooks from around the same time. But anyway, god bless whoever it was. Plus whoever invented butter tarts. I was SO shocked when I found out that butter tarts and nanaimo bars are almost completely unknown outside of Canada, that's a serious travesty.

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ericameredith
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posted 05-27-2004 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ericameredith   Click Here to Email ericameredith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anyone have any good recipes for nanaimo bars? i love them!

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meggo
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posted 05-27-2004 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meggo   Click Here to Email meggo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oven proof skillets. Is it necessary? I was reading the garlic chicken recipe over in Cult Recipes & it said to use an oven proof skillet.
Now - I don't have one. Can I use a regular skillet & then transfer the stuff to a pyrex or something for the oven portion?
Or should I get a cast iron skillet?

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LaMantequilla
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posted 05-27-2004 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaMantequilla   Click Here to Email LaMantequilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meggo, that's what I did with that particular recipe and it was delicious... but I suspect it would be much more delicious if it was made in all in one skillet. A cast-iron pan is well worth the investment in general, I think.

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Princessjeanne
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posted 05-27-2004 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not really necessary to have an oven-proof skillet, but man when you do the recipes that are written to use one it is so worth having it. I had a brown-chicken-and-then-pour-oj-on-it-and-braise-in-that recipe that I was doing the same thing with - brown in a skillet and then transfer to pyrex. Then I got an ovenproof skillet (not cast iron) for like $7.99 at TJM@xx and did it that way - wow. The depth of flavor was really different, and it was really really good. If you have room in your kitchen it is something I would definitely recommend having. Plus I just love shopping for kitchen stuff, so it was a good excuse.

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pollyhyper
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posted 05-27-2004 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is an oven-proof skillet the same thing as a "dutch oven"?
(giggle, giggle, snort, snort)
hehee. dutch oven.
Really, though, is it?

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Drea D
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posted 05-27-2004 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drea D   Click Here to Email Drea D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericameredith:
anyone have any good recipes for nanaimo bars? i love them!


nanaimo bars

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natalie
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posted 05-27-2004 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for natalie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ericameredith, my mom has a British Columbia cookbook, so I will look it up when I go visit this weekend.

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