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Bjerica
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posted 01-20-2004 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bjerica   Click Here to Email Bjerica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this site especially useful for working out things like all purpose flour = plain flour, biscuit = scone, broil = grill, saran wrap = glad wrap etc.

Annabella's Kitchen - Another Name For It!

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kena
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posted 01-21-2004 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kena   Click Here to Email kena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know what kind of vegetables "yellow courgettes" might be? I just got Nigella Lawson's "Forever Summer" and several recipes use this.

I'm a bit puzzled because "courgette" is the French word for zucchini, but the vegetable she uses looks nowhere like yellow zucchini in the pictures. It's certainly a kind of squash, but there are no seeds and the flesh is a deep and uniform yellow.

Any ideas?

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pollyhyper
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posted 01-21-2004 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honeybells. Those oranges are called "honeybells." And they arrived yesterday. And they are juicy and delicious.

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meggo
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posted 01-21-2004 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meggo   Click Here to Email meggo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always thought a courgette was a zucchini too.... hmmmm - I can't think of if there is a yellow summer squash that she might be using?

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crowjoy
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posted 01-21-2004 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crowjoy   Click Here to Email crowjoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LazyGoddess:
I always thought that doing a sage rub on lamb was almost a given sort of thing, but then again I've never had lamb so I could just be hallucinating.

I always associate rosemary with lamb is all. It seems like the sage would be good and I have a bunch of it fresh but it sure would suck to ruin a leg of lamb.

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ragazzina
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posted 01-21-2004 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ragazzina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yellow courgette? Odd.

Yes, a courgette is a zucchini.

I'm going to have to go to a bookshop and look at forever summer, check this out.

Does it look like a courgette? Maybe it's just a strange london variety ("we're so cool in london, we can even get things out in random other colours. Look at our zebra-striped mangetouts!")...

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Princessjeanne
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posted 01-21-2004 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm thinking she probably means what's called summer squash or yellow squash here - they do sort of look like zucchinis though. The small ones have very few seeds and can be cut easily - they don't have the thick skin of a winter squash.

Here is some stuff I found on google - the yellow one in the forefront, kinda bulbous on one end and skinnier on the stem end, is what I think of when I think of summer squash. Which is, in turn, the only thing I can think of that might be a yellow courgette.

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pollyhyper
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posted 01-21-2004 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kena:
Does anyone know what kind of vegetables "yellow courgettes" might be? I just got Nigella Lawson's "Forever Summer" and several recipes use this.

I'm a bit puzzled because "courgette" is the French word for zucchini, but the vegetable she uses looks nowhere like yellow zucchini in the pictures. It's certainly a kind of squash, but there are no seeds and the flesh is a deep and uniform yellow.

Any ideas?


Could it be that they are very small/young yellow squashes? I think the French like to cook with the small ones, and if they were small you wouldn't see the seeds and maybe the insides wouldn't be as white.

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Nieci
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posted 01-22-2004 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found some juniper berries a week or so ago after never having seen them before. Do they go bad? I thought they were dried even tho I found them in the produce dept, so I didn't use them at first, but now I'm wondering...

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kena
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posted 01-22-2004 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kena   Click Here to Email kena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Princessjeanne:
I'm thinking she probably means what's called summer squash or yellow squash here - they do sort of look like zucchinis though. The small ones have very few seeds and can be cut easily - they don't have the thick skin of a winter squash.
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I think that's it! At least that what it looks like, although I've never seen a vegetable like this at my farmer's market. Maybe I could substitute another kind of squash, like butternut (maybe steamed a bit beforehand to compensate for the longer cooking time)?

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pollyhyper
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posted 01-22-2004 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kena:
I think that's it! At least that what it looks like, although I've never seen a vegetable like this at my farmer's market. Maybe I could substitute another kind of squash, like butternut (maybe steamed a bit beforehand to compensate for the longer cooking time)?

Butternut and summer squash actually have pretty different flavors to them, butternut being on the sweet buttery side. I would substitute with zucchini if I were you.
BTW, where do you live that you don't have summer squash? Weird

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indiechickuk
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posted 01-23-2004 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indiechickuk   Click Here to Email indiechickuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as far as I remember from the tv series, it was a 'summer squash'. They aren't overly common here in the uk so we just call them yellow courgette- same family of veg I guess. Nigella probably just used it for the colour - she's big on co-ordinating recipes!!!
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crowjoy
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posted 01-24-2004 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crowjoy   Click Here to Email crowjoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just noticed the instructions on my tin of curry... it says to always sautee in some oil before using. Uhh, I usually just toss it in the crock pot with the chicken and veggies, am I ruining my curry? I new to this curry thing (thanks Kena!)

eta: It probably goes without saying, but I noticed the instructions after I'd dumped the curry in. Naturally.

[This message has been edited by crowjoy (edited 01-24-2004).]

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yam
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posted 01-24-2004 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're aren't ruining it, that's how most people use it I'm sure.

But oh man they're right about frying it in a bit of oil = good. So awesome. You just need to fry it for like one minute, until it smells fierce and makes your sinuses whine.

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crowjoy
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posted 01-25-2004 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crowjoy   Click Here to Email crowjoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Phew! I mean, it tastes good but what do I know? I'm all for a combination of ferocity and whining though so I'll give the fry a chance next time.

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Princessjeanne
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posted 01-26-2004 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a mozzarella string-cheese stick on my desk. It seems well-sealed, but it's been there since thursday. Today being monday, is this going to kill me if I eat it?

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fluffygurl
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posted 01-26-2004 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffygurl   Click Here to Email fluffygurl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In fairness those things are usually jam packed fuill of preservatives and other things to keeop em good. Id go for the smell taste if it smells good it probably is. However I do have an oddly good stomach for eating crap with!

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FunPun
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posted 01-26-2004 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FunPun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Princessjeanne:
I have a mozzarella string-cheese stick on my desk. It seems well-sealed, but it's been there since thursday. Today being monday, is this going to kill me if I eat it?

Hmm... I'd probably steer clear, only because it's un-refrigerated dairy. That scares me, but then I'm a big wimp about stuff like that.

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crowjoy
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posted 01-26-2004 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crowjoy   Click Here to Email crowjoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is that stuff refrigerated to begin with? If not, I'd eat it. If so, well, I mean, isn't cheese one of those things that's supposed to be able to sit out?

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Princessjeanne
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posted 01-26-2004 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ate it. Not dead yet. I'm not too terribly paranoid about food stuff, but no adverse effects at all.

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jazzberry
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posted 01-26-2004 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jazzberry   Click Here to Email jazzberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah..they are supposed to be refrigerated. They're designed to last in a kid's lunch box....but...er...not out on a desk for several days. I'm sure you won't die...the very worst you may get seriously poopy.

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What's this hysteria about listeria?
Here is the scoopie, you might get poopie

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jazzberry
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posted 01-26-2004 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jazzberry   Click Here to Email jazzberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heehehehehe!

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minxx
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posted 01-27-2004 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for minxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have some turkey bacon in my frig. I've used some of it and I'm thinking of using the rest. How long does bacon stay good for after the package is open?

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crowjoy
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posted 01-27-2004 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crowjoy   Click Here to Email crowjoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't cured meat one of those pretty much forever foods? Turkey I'm not so sure about but if it's been sealed regular bacon would still be fine. I think.

Disclaimer: My food knowledge comes from the same woman known to have said "Hafta eat a peck of dirt before you die" on a regular and frequent basis.

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Princessjeanne
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posted 01-27-2004 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heh, me too crowjoy. I always figure there are many more things out to kill me than food. See above string cheese fiasco (note: I'm still fine. Maybe I just have an iron stomach though. Don't eat old cheese, people).

Anyway. Bacon is LOADED with salt and preservatives, but I wouldn't leave it more than a few days uncooked in the fridge unless it's still factory sealed. See if the package gives any advice; I'd give it 4 days to a week max if the package doesn't say anything.

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yam
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posted 01-27-2004 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sliced bacon is okay for a week after you open it. If you're not going to use it right away, you can wrap the rest up and freeze it - it'll keep in the freezer for I think up to two months.

Slab bacon will keep for two weeks, apparently. Has anyone ever bought a slab of bacon? I saw it for the first time last week and I feel strangely drawn to it. It sounds so wrong but feels so right. It's like when my father in law told me that in the netherlands they have bacon in a can. I have some kind of gross bacon-y part of my soul that calls out to me or something.

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Nieci
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posted 01-28-2004 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have SCOURED the stores around here for slab bacon and can't find it. Had it in England. SOOO good!

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crowjoy
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posted 01-28-2004 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crowjoy   Click Here to Email crowjoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I've seen slab bacon at the meat counter where the butcher slices it for you.

Not that I'm encouraging to play fast and loose with their tolerance for rotting food, but really... I mean, didn't they cure meat in the day of old so it would last all winter/year without refrigeration? Isn't cheese actually a storage unit for dairy nutrition? I need me a dose of the food history channel.

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Princessjeanne
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posted 01-28-2004 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by crowjoy:
I think I've seen slab bacon at the meat counter where the butcher slices it for you.

Not that I'm encouraging to play fast and loose with their tolerance for rotting food, but really... I mean, didn't they cure meat in the day of old so it would last all winter/year without refrigeration? Isn't cheese actually a storage unit for dairy nutrition? I need me a dose of the food history channel.


Meats (especially beef and pork) used to be packed in barrels of salt & smoked to make it through the winter. The beef stuff was called hardtack I think and seems to be a cousin of beef jerky... the pork became bacon or just salt pork, I think.

As far as cheese goes, it was one of those accidental food discoveries - some Roman put milk in a sheep's bladder or something, rode off to conquer something or whatever Romans were doing when they traveled, discovered his milk had turned solid, and ate it anyway. The book I have says that it was probably a lot like cottage cheese & the process of making harder/purposfully aged cheeses evolved over the years with lots of trial and error.

Anyway, blah blah blah. I am such a nerd about food... Maybe I should go to school for that, forget law school.

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posted 01-28-2004 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beep   Click Here to Email Beep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hardtack is actually a kind of cracker... The salted stuff was available year-round, (could you imagine eating that all the time? blech!), but they only had "fresh" meat in the late fall/winter/early spring, when the air temperature was low enough to freeze the meat.

Bacon nowadays is nowhere near salty enough to stay preserved for long periods of time.

I think their cheeses were a bit drier, too, and they weren't so fussy about mold... they'd just cut/scrape the mold off and keep the rest.

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crowjoy
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posted 01-28-2004 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crowjoy   Click Here to Email crowjoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The idea of finding old milk in a sheep bladder and eating it almost made me urp. However I do love cheese. Go figure.

Interesting stuff, food technology throughout history.

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BionicGirl
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posted 01-28-2004 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BionicGirl   Click Here to Email BionicGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heh, sheep bladder = technology

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posted 01-28-2004 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jstrizzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can still just cut a moldy part off of a piece of cheese and eat the rest. Not that I make a habit of it, but the nonmoldy part is usually fine.

Though with bleu cheeses it can be hard to tell if you've gotten it all...

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LazyGoddess
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posted 01-29-2004 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LazyGoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CJ, did you ever figure out what to do with the whole sage/lamb thing?

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crowjoy
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posted 01-29-2004 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crowjoy   Click Here to Email crowjoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, I minced it up and layered in on and baked it! I had marinated the roast in a concord grape based thing (had some grapes that needed used) and then smashed the sage on real thick. It was good! We didn't really eat the sage though... it sorta just flaked off. I'd say it was a fine alternative to rosemary.

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LazyGoddess
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posted 01-29-2004 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LazyGoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad it turned out for ya. It sounds like it was yummy.

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FunPun
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posted 02-05-2004 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FunPun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, today's question is about spinach. Fresh spinach, to be exact. Every time I buy the stuff, it gets old and slimy in the blink of an eye, then I don't get to use it. I'm going to the grocery store tonight, but I don't plan to cook the spinach until Saturday. Any advice on preserving it until then? Sealed/unsealed? Dry/sumberged in water? Or should I just resign myself to making another trip to the store on Saturday?

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crowjoy
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posted 02-05-2004 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crowjoy   Click Here to Email crowjoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good timing! I just got some today and wonder how long I have to use it.

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Nieci
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posted 02-05-2004 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nieci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fresh spinach should last for roundabout 3 days in a plastic bag in the fridge.

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