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Bjerica
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posted 08-20-2003 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bjerica   Click Here to Email Bjerica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it's humid the glycerin will actually attract the moisture in the air. A site I was looking at earlier said to wipe off the moisture and wrap in plastic wrap. I don't know if there is a way to "seal" the soap so it doesn't happen.

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BionicGirl
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posted 02-03-2004 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BionicGirl   Click Here to Email BionicGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I was planning on making some soap this week but I have a few questions:

1. I'm just doing the melt and mold glyercin soap, is the container I use to melt it in going to be easy to clean afterwards, or do I need to use something I don't care about?

2. I'm going to set little toys into it. Obviously I need to wait until it sets a bit before putting the toys in, but any tips on that? How long to wait? What's the best consistency to add solid objects?

3. Won't adding food coloring cause stains later (like on a hand towel or washcloth)? Food coloring stains, man.

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jescat
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posted 02-03-2004 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jescat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend and I followed instructions from ReadyMade magazine and started making our own soap with lye and olive oil. Kinda dangerous and you have to be REALLY careful with the lye (insert Fight Club reference). It has to cure for at least 3 weeks before you use it, but once it's ready, the lye is all gone.

We've made batches with green tea, milk, honey, oatmeal, and lots of different essential oils (not altogether obviously). It's fun and they're SO nice. We've made melt and pour glycerin too, but once you make soap from scratch, glycerin just feels like cheating.

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crowjoy
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posted 02-04-2004 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crowjoy   Click Here to Email crowjoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BionicGirl:
Okay, I was planning on making some soap this week but I have a few questions:

1. I'm just doing the melt and mold glyercin soap, is the container I use to melt it in going to be easy to clean afterwards, or do I need to use something I don't care about?

2. I'm going to set little toys into it. Obviously I need to wait until it sets a bit before putting the toys in, but any tips on that? How long to wait? What's the best consistency to add solid objects?

3. Won't adding food coloring cause stains later (like on a hand towel or washcloth)? Food coloring stains, man.


1. I used an old pyrex bowl that cleaned just fine though the soap that dribbled down the outside did slightly discolor the glass. So I think if you use a clear glass bowl you'd have no troubles. I've also melted it in styrofoam coffee cups and that worked out fine by stirring often.

2. When the soap starts to set it sets on the surface first, so if you wait too long to jam your toy in the surface won't recover. I didn't really have any issue with putting the stuff in pretty much right away.

3. I got coloring for soap because food coloring will make joke soap (bwa ha haaa.) The stuff inside the colored soap was more obscured than I guessed... you might want to experiment with color on less-prized objects.

This might be inspiring me to go get my stuff out of the closet.

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pollyhyper
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posted 02-04-2004 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by crowjoy:
2. When the soap starts to set it sets on the surface first, so if you wait too long to jam your toy in the surface won't recover. I didn't really have any issue with putting the stuff in pretty much right away.

What if you pour the mold a little less than halfway full, let it set a little, and then put the toy in before finishing the pouring?

Also, I have used food coloring, but never more than just a drop to make the soap tinted but not colored. Never had a problem with staining but I would imagine if you put too much in you would.
They have little color crystals at crafty stores (like Crowjoy mentioned) that you melt with the soap.

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bekkaboo
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posted 02-04-2004 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bekkaboo   Click Here to Email bekkaboo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I made melt and mold, I used a Pyrex measuring cup and it came clean just fine - soaked it a bit, but it wasn't hard to clean at all. Also I've seen a "suspension formula" of the bars that you melt - I guess it's supposed to suspend objects better in the soap, so if you put them in right away they don't sink straight to bottom of the mold....I don't know if it's worth getting, I've never tried it and I don't know how it works - just a suggestion. I haven't used food coloring for soap, I used little bottles that looked like food coloring but were made for soap - I guess they don't stain like food coloring - and also there are the abovementioned crystals.

[This message has been edited by bekkaboo (edited 02-04-2004).]

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bekkaboo
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posted 02-04-2004 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bekkaboo   Click Here to Email bekkaboo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I often get confused between edit and quote, don't mind me........

[This message has been edited by bekkaboo (edited 02-04-2004).]

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luckychere
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posted 02-27-2004 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luckychere   Click Here to Email luckychere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought some soap to do rebatching, and I thought of a question. If you're mixing in seeds or anything small of the like, what prevents them from just sinking to the bottom of your soap once it's poured into the mold? I'm not talking about embedding objects, just adding lightweight seems, pumice, etc.

I made some melt and pour glycerin soap in the past, and my pumice always sank to the bottom. I used it to my benefit to make great foot scrubbies, but it wasn't what I was initially going for. I'd like to prevent it this time around.

Basically, the rebatching soap I bought I think was cold-processed (it's NOT glycerin soap), and made with the intention that you shred it, melt it, add your color and additives, etc. Similar to melt and pour glycerin but the process is a little more complicated, and the finished soap is hand-milled and much nicer.

[This message has been edited by luckychere (edited 02-27-2004).]

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bekkaboo
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posted 02-27-2004 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bekkaboo   Click Here to Email bekkaboo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some melt-and-pour soaps make a "suspension formula" that's supposed to keep stuff uniformly distributed throughout the soap, rather than just letting it sink to the bottom. I mentioned that above, but here's a link to one brand - it's the second one down on the page.

I haven't tried it, so I don't know how well it works.

Edited because "mantioned" is not a word, although it oughta be.

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sweet tea
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posted 02-29-2004 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet tea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any one have any good ideas for packaging soaps? Usually I just stack a few together and sit them in the middle of a square of saran wrap, pull the corners together, twist and then tape the twisty part down... or tie a ribbon around the twisty part. It looks okay, but I'm trying to think of a more professional looking way to package my soaps. Any ideas?

Sarah

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hbdanielle
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posted 02-29-2004 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hbdanielle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sweet tea:
Any one have any good ideas for packaging soaps? Usually I just stack a few together and sit them in the middle of a square of saran wrap, pull the corners together, twist and then tape the twisty part down... or tie a ribbon around the twisty part. It looks okay, but I'm trying to think of a more professional looking way to package my soaps. Any ideas?

Sarah


Maybe if you got some nice quality thick paper and wrapped it, like a present, and then sealed the part where the edges come together with sealing wax? I think I've seen some done like that at Crabtree & Evelyn.

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pollyhyper
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posted 03-01-2004 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pollyhyper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've wrapped my soaps in two ways:
1. brown kraft paper and raffia
2. plastic (for the prettier ones) and raffia
and then for both I made a little tag with the ingredients and soforth, and punched a hole in the corner of it, and tied that into the raffia.
Just some ideas.

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ralphyr
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posted 03-01-2004 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ralphyr   Click Here to Email ralphyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sweet tea:
Any one have any good ideas for packaging soaps? Usually I just stack a few together and sit them in the middle of a square of saran wrap, pull the corners together, twist and then tape the twisty part down... or tie a ribbon around the twisty part. It looks okay, but I'm trying to think of a more professional looking way to package my soaps. Any ideas?

Sarah


Sweet Tea, when you finish wrapping your soap heat it gently with a hairdryer. It will tighten the wrap and look very professional (the Bodyshop gift baskets are done in this way). Or you could nestle the soap in a face cloth, plonk it on a (dollarshop) soap dish and saran wrap it for a complete gift.

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Eckerslie
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posted 12-23-2004 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eckerslie   Click Here to Email Eckerslie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You may have overheated it when melting it. Don't melt it all the way - just until 95% of it's melted then let the residual heat melt the rest.

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Eckerslie
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posted 12-24-2004 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eckerslie   Click Here to Email Eckerslie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yay BG for tackling soap!!!

In answer to your q:

quote:
Originally posted by BionicGirl:
1. I'm just doing the melt and mold glyercin soap, is the container I use to melt it in going to be easy to clean afterwards, or do I need to use something I don't care about?
It's soap. It will wash out of what you melt it in. I'd suggest a glass jug and use the microwave or a double boiler. Don't use plastic as it could melt and it will absorb your smells.
[quote]2. I'm going to set little toys into it. Obviously I need to wait until it sets a bit before putting the toys in, but any tips on that? How long to wait? What's the best consistency to add solid objects?


Imbedding is actually a bit hard than that as toys can sometims float to the surface. You can pour some m&p into icecube trays and set the toys onto the soap so that when it sets it has an anchor. Some toys it doesn't matter with - I've seen fish in a bag, and spiders and such. Very cute.
quote:
3. Won't adding food coloring cause stains later (like on a hand towel or washcloth)? Food coloring stains, man.

Nah food colouring is pretty harmless. The problem with food colouring though is that it isn't photo stable - it will fade really quickly in the light. It's also not especially concentrated so you need a lot to get a good colour and as it's water it can upset the balance in the soap. You might want to investigate real m&p colours - google it for someone near you.

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Eckerslie
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posted 12-24-2004 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eckerslie   Click Here to Email Eckerslie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jescat:
[B]A friend and I followed instructions from ReadyMade magazine and started making our own soap with lye and olive oil. Kinda dangerous and you have to be REALLY careful with the lye (insert Fight Club reference). It has to cure for at least 3 weeks before you use it, but once it's ready, the lye is all gone.[B]

Making soap is so much fun! Just keep in mind though that:

1. Recipes in books and magazines are often not correctly balanced and you can end up with a soap that has far too much lye in it, or has too much oil left over. Soap isn't made perfectly balanced - it's made so that there is some oils left over to moisturise. Run any recipe through a calculator like the one on www.the-sage.com

2. Soap doesn't need to cure for any time before being used. The saponification process is actually over and done with in 24-48 hours and you can use the soap then. WHat it does need to do is dry out or else it dissolves really quickly. There are methods (discount water, hot process etc) that mean you can literally make the soap one day and use it the next!

3. I've been making soap for 6 years and really should just write a book rather than prattling on like this.

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Eckerslie
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posted 12-24-2004 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eckerslie   Click Here to Email Eckerslie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey luckychere:

What you bought is indeed cold processed soap and is real soap as compared to m&p which is syndet. If you melt it slowly it will go like very thick cake batter so when you stir stuff in it won't sink. Your soap shouldn't need any extra liquid or else it can become alien brain soap when it dries.

As you've found adding things into m&p doesn't work very well as it melts to a very thin liquid. You can wait until it is almost set before adding stuff though.

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chitowngal
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posted 12-25-2004 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chitowngal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as posted by bosoxgirl in another thread:

quote:
Hi there,
I am starting my first endeavor of soap-making for christmas gifts this year. Just wondering if others have had success (or failure? )and if there are any tips for a first-time soap gal!

Thanks!


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