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mamichan
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posted 03-20-2003 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mamichan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do any of you color your hair at home? If so, what hair-coloring brands do you recommend?

I've always used Feria (L'Oreal) but it really dries out my hair, so I'm looking for something less damaging, but still permanent.

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fairystar
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posted 03-20-2003 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairystar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The herbal essence stuff is good, that's what I usually use. It's the only hair dye I've found that a)smells great, and b)has awesome conditioner that keeps your hair soft and shiny.

The only downside is that if you're going darker, the color tends to fade relatively quickly (I had no trouble when I went blonde, but when I went to brown, dark brown, and auburn-brown, the color almost went back to my natural light brown/dark blonde).

Has anyone tried or heard about the new L'Oreal 2-tone/highligts kit? It looks pretty neat.

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Liv
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posted 03-20-2003 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liv   Click Here to Email Liv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I use Lumia #83 pretty regularly and have been really happy with it. It looks natural, not all bland and one-colored. It's permanent but just "brightens" rather than dyes. Basically it's like my natural color if I ever saw sunlight. I haven't noticed my hair being overly damaged from it, either. It comes with a nice conditioner.

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Princessjeanne
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posted 03-20-2003 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princessjeanne   Click Here to Email Princessjeanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you really do good highlights at home? I am ultra-paranoid about it but can't afford salong haircolor... has anyone done it?

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lesliele
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posted 03-20-2003 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lesliele   Click Here to Email lesliele     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been coloring my hair since I was in 8th grade... I've used pretty much every brand out there.

Mamichan, watch out for Feria... Any salon you go to will tell you not to use it because it's VERY difficult to strip out of your hair if there is ever a need to, and it's very damaging to the hair itself. Also, it can cause a reaction with any other brand of hair color you use. Basically, if you use it, your hair has to grow out completely before it's dyeable again. (This is just what I've been told by hairstylists though, so you might want to ask your own.)

Lately, I've been using Herbal Essences because it's been on sale alot. LOL I dye my hair to cover up the white hair that seems to be more abundant as of late. It works pretty well, but I agree with Fairystar-- it fades pretty quickly.

As for highlights, I have done my own highlights a few times. Depending on how good you are working in a mirrow and how long your hair is, it's definitely a doable thing. I've gotten the papers and brush from Sally Beauty Supply, done the cap thing, and done the comb through technique.

Of the three, I recommend the comb technique for beginners. (This is where you just dip a comb into the light dye and pull down through your hair in different sections from your roots to the end of the hair. Subtle, depending on what color you use.)

The papers/brush combo is a little more complicated than the comb method, but it provides more of a "layered" effect. Looks more professional in the end. Drawback is you have to have good coordination when working in the mirror. Or, you could just have a friend help you do it.

I would not recommend the cap method to ANYONE. Even if you have short hair. In my experience, it's painful and impossible to get the dye all the way to your roots. You end up with highlights that start at least 1/2 an inch away from your scalp, and that just looks dumb.

And I think I'm gonna try the new L'oreal stuff once the price drops a bit.

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hermia
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posted 03-20-2003 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hermia   Click Here to Email hermia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lesliele:
Mamichan, watch out for Feria... Any salon you go to will tell you not to use it because it's VERY difficult to strip out of your hair if there is ever a need to, and it's very damaging to the hair itself. Also, it can cause a reaction with any other brand of hair color you use. Basically, if you use it, your hair has to grow out completely before it's dyeable again. (This is just what I've been told by hairstylists though, so you might want to ask your own.)

It's funny that you say that -- I have sworn off coloring my hair at all, after a traumatic year of issues when I used Feria to dye my hair red. The color was great and shiny, but when I ddi end up needing it stripped it didn't want to coem out at all.

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blanketbat
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posted 03-20-2003 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blanketbat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GRRRRR. I am still waiting for an unfortunate home hair dye incident to grow out (and my hair is down past my bra strap). A bit more than a year ago, I dyed my hair red with a temporary (20-26 washes) kit from Clairol. It was lovely. I liked it a lot. After a bit more than a month, it had all washed out as planned. So far, so good.

Over the next few weeks, I thought my hair, normally a very dark blond, was getting lighter. I wrote it off as my imagination. Then, as more time passed and my hair continued to grow, I noticed I had dark roots. HOW could I have darker roots from dying my hair a darker shade? Well, it wasn't my imagination. The portions of my hair that were dyed, are now lighter than the rest of my hair.

The only thing I can think is that the dye somehow made my hair more succeptable to lightening in the sun. It's very frustrating. I'm not really sure if I should even to somewhere and redye the lighter portions darker...because what if it turns lighter again? So far it's down just past my ears. Sigh...

Anyone ever heard of anything like this? Someone offer me hope...

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mamichan
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posted 03-20-2003 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mamichan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lesliele:

Mamichan, watch out for Feria... Any salon you go to will tell you not to use it because it's VERY difficult to strip out of your hair if there is ever a need to, and it's very damaging to the hair itself. Also, it can cause a reaction with any other brand of hair color you use. Basically, if you use it, your hair has to grow out completely before it's dyeable again. (This is just what I've been told by hairstylists though, so you might want to ask your own.)

You must be psychic, that's exactly why I asked for recommendations! My stylist was horrified when I told her that I've been using feria. She said it's really damaging... and lately I've noticed that the ends of my hair are crunchy.

fairystar -- I've had the same problem going darker. I dyed my color back to black in October, and it washed out in 3 weeks (I used Feria)! I've seen the L'Oreal 2-tones kit at Target, I didn't get it b/c of the cost -- $21.

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Cosmichippy
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posted 03-20-2003 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cosmichippy   Click Here to Email Cosmichippy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if you are looking for something subtle, I have been using Salon selectives highlighting foam. I luv it!! It gives you really light highlights..my hair is dark black and after using it is light brown..and a little of it goes a long way.

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HotGlueMama
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posted 03-20-2003 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HotGlueMama   Click Here to Email HotGlueMama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my god, thanks so much for the Feria tip - I thought I was going crazy!

I dyed my hair fakey cranberry red months and months ago, but it always faded to orange really fast. So I started experimenting with brands...unfortunately, one of them was Feria. I liked the color and that it didn't dye my scalp, and it didn't damage my hair that badly, but when it faded (in 2 weeks!) and I tried another brand, it JUST WOULDN'T STICK! I've been at it for months now, but I can't get any permanent dye to stick to my hair for more than two washes! AAAHHHHH!!!! At least now I know why and can save my money and time!

Now if only I could manage to scrub that pink ring out of my shower...

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jazzberry
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posted 03-21-2003 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jazzberry   Click Here to Email jazzberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I use Open by Loreal. I don't know if I'm just a freak, but it seems to make my hair feel softer when I'm done. I really like it, and they have really natural looking colours.

Princessjeanne: Highlighting your hair at home is never really as good as it is in the salon, but it is WAY way cheaper. I've had my hair highlighted in the cap before, and while it hurts like ass (yeah, that's right) it works pretty well as long as you get a friend to do it for you who's willing to take the time to make sure the whole length of hair is through and that the cap is on properly.

Hope this helps!

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jumpinmonkies
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posted 03-21-2003 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jumpinmonkies   Click Here to Email jumpinmonkies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been using the Garnier Nutrisse for over a year now. Much like jazzberry said about Open by Loreal, I think the Nutrisse actually makes my hair feel softer and better in general after I use it. The color has also been pretty predictable compared to other brands that I've used (and I've been doing the at-home color thing for about 10 yrs.) Best of all, the Nutrisse is CHEAP. Every few weeks, I can get it on sale, buy one get one (with the original price being only about 6 bucks.) But, I have to say that I've only used about 4 different shades, and nothing like cranberry. So, I can't really attest to how long lasting a more dynamic color like that would last. Might be worth a try, though.

Jen

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Merimoo
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posted 03-21-2003 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merimoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why does the cap hurt? Is it tight?

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sissygirl
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posted 03-21-2003 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sissygirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding the "dyeing hair darker - now hair is lighter" problem. Traditional hair dyes all contain belaching agents. The colour you see on the hair swatch at the pharmacy is actually the dye over bleached white hair.

So, when you apply dye, you are simultaneously bleaching your hair a little so the colour will have a slightly blanker pallete to work with.

The only dye I will touch is L'Oreal Preference. All of the rest, including and especially the Nutrise and Herbal Essences, make my hair horribly brittle.

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MissMel
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posted 03-21-2003 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MissMel   Click Here to Email MissMel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cosmichippy, how does the Highlighting Foam work? Is it affordable? Does it change the color all-over?

I'm so tired of my current boring color, but I totally can't afford to go to a salon, and am leery about doing it myself.

[This message has been edited by MissMel (edited 03-21-2003).]

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kittenkat
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posted 03-21-2003 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kittenkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always had good experiences with Natural Instincts when I home-colored. It's not permanent so it's not too harsh, but the reds always lasted several weeks. Happily my sister-in-law is a kickass hairstylist/colorist and gives me the family discount on haircolor, so I no longer have to do it myself I know quite a few hairstylists and people playing with Feria is the bane of their existence as well as the bulk of their corrective color jobs.

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mjo
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posted 03-21-2003 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I use Garnier Nutrisse as well, and it seems to work well!

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blanketbat
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posted 03-21-2003 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blanketbat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as corrective color goes, how much can they do? At the moment the bottom half of my hair is just a bit lighter than the top. The light part is just about the color my hair turns if I sit in the sun too much. There is about 5 inches of the natural color on the top. Can a good colorist make it all match again? I don't want to waste the year of growing out I've already gone through if they can't match it to the natural color, but it they can...I'll be in tomorrow.

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fairystar
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posted 03-22-2003 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairystar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lesliele, definitely post your opinion if you try the new L'Oreal stuff! I'd like to hear how it works.

I'm thinking about going to the local beauty school and getting mine done for a cheap but semi-professional job. Anyone had good results (or horror stories) from doing that?

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kena
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posted 03-22-2003 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kena   Click Here to Email kena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any ideas if I can get highlights that won't scream "I have highlights" once my hair grows.

I'd like a change for the summer, but I don't want to have ugly roots and I don't want to dye my hair regularly. (And I'd like to keep my hair soft and nice obviously... I intend to keep its "never-dyed-before" silkyness)

I have dark blonde hair that naturally lightens in the summer (when I don't spend it sitting in front of a cathodic tube, that is) and that's approximately the effect I'd like to get.

Any ideas on how I could get this done, either at home or at a salon?

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Cosmichippy
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posted 03-22-2003 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cosmichippy   Click Here to Email Cosmichippy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Miss Mel, the highlighting foam is really cheap, it's about 4-6 bucks, and its basically just a foam that you spread through your hair. It comes in brown and blonde. You have to use it more than once, and I find it works better when you go out in the sun. However I do have to say that I have really thick hair, and some of my friends who have fine hair say that it dried out their hair, but it did work for me.

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MissMel
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posted 03-23-2003 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MissMel   Click Here to Email MissMel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info. I'll try it and see how it turns out!

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kittenkat
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posted 03-24-2003 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kittenkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blanketbat:
As far as corrective color goes, how much can they do? At the moment the bottom half of my hair is just a bit lighter than the top. The light part is just about the color my hair turns if I sit in the sun too much. There is about 5 inches of the natural color on the top. Can a good colorist make it all match again? I don't want to waste the year of growing out I've already gone through if they can't match it to the natural color, but it they can...I'll be in tomorrow.


I've seen my sister-in-law perform miracles with color gone wrong (think turquoise hair), but it ain't cheap. A lot of stylists won't touch corrective color because it's pretty tricky, hence the cost. Call around and look for people specializing in corrective color. Your regular stylist may be able to recommend someone if s/he doesn't do it.

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mamichan
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posted 03-24-2003 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mamichan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so I used Herbal Essences on Friday -- I liked it a lot. The color turned out evenly and my hair is soft! I liked the consistency of it too -- not too watery. One of my complaints about Feria and L'Oreal Open was that I felt it was too watery and drippy.

Blanketbat -- I was in the same situation -- the bottom of my hair was medium brown, and the top half was my natural color (dark brown). I bought a medium-brown color and my hair is all the same color again.

Weird thing -- I've washed my hair 3 times since, and every time, some color washes out! This has never happened to me before -- did I not rinse it out enough when I colored? Or is this something that's unique to Herbal Essences?

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Diaphanous
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posted 03-24-2003 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diaphanous     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fairystar:
Has anyone tried or heard about the new L'Oreal 2-tone/highligts kit? It looks pretty neat.


I have! I love it! It came out beautifully. It is a rather time consuming procedure - first you have to do the main color, then rinse that out, then you have to apply the highlights, wait 20 minutes, and rinse that out, so you're at least doubling the time it usually takes. But in my opinion, it is worth it. The highlighting paste is somehow magical - it stays exactly on the sttrands you paint it on and does not leak or drip or color any strands below it - you don't need foils or anything, you can lay those strands directly on portions you don't want highlighted and it is not affected. I am very pleased with the results.

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blanketbat
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posted 03-24-2003 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blanketbat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys...I'm just afraid to try anything else at home because I've already put a year into growing out my last mistake! I think I'll call around and see who is good with color.

[This message has been edited by blanketbat (edited 03-24-2003).]

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BionicGirl
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posted 03-24-2003 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BionicGirl   Click Here to Email BionicGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mamichan:
Weird thing -- I've washed my hair 3 times since, and every time, some color washes out! This has never happened to me before -- did I not rinse it out enough when I colored? Or is this something that's unique to Herbal Essences?

I stopped using Herbal Essences because of this. I was tired of turning my towels pink! It just continuously did it, even a month later. The color didn't fade from my hair, bu there was always dye in the water. Weird. I switched to L'oreal Preference. It doesn't leave my hair quite as silky, but it's still really soft and the color is good and most importantly STAYS in my hair!

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journeygirl
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posted 03-24-2003 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for journeygirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ya'll inspired me! I thought my hair had been looking blah after the winter months, so I tried Clairol Natural Instincts (spiced cider) this weekend. The color was a bit brassy at first, so I washed my hair the next morning, and it toned down nicely. No one at work noticed that I'd colored my hair, which I consider a very good sign.

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LimaEchoPapa
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posted 03-25-2003 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LimaEchoPapa   Click Here to Email LimaEchoPapa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just started using Garnier Nutrisse (cocoa bean) because of incredibly stubborn grays.

I loved the consistency, and it puffed up the cuticle of my hair (for more volume) without damaging my hair too badly...at least that's what my hair guy says.

The color is GREAT...I have problems getting a mostly brown shade without it being too red, and this one is perfect. The color on the box is very representative of what you'll get on your own head.

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mamichan
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posted 03-25-2003 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mamichan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BionicGirl:
I stopped using Herbal Essences because of this. I was tired of turning my towels pink! It just continuously did it, even a month later. The color didn't fade from my hair, bu there was always dye in the water. Weird. I switched to L'oreal Preference. It doesn't leave my hair quite as silky, but it's still really soft and the color is good and most importantly STAYS in my hair!

so it IS an Herbal Essences thing. I'm not having a problem with the color staining my towels or pillowcase, but there's always this brown-ish dye in the water! My quest for the perfect at-home color continues. I think I'll try Garnier Nutrisse for next time.

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maddytrue
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posted 03-25-2003 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maddytrue   Click Here to Email maddytrue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been using Herbal Essences for the past year or so, and I've noticed a little color in my shower water, but only for about a week after I dye my hair. I just make sure I use the same towel each time; that way I don't have to risk ruining a whole set. I love the color, and it makes my hair feel really soft afterwards.

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Gnome
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posted 03-26-2003 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gnome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dyed my blonde hair red with Feria about 4 years ago and when it startd fading horribly I had to have it stripped out. My mom (professional) did it and it ended up a very horrible orange color for a long time. Even a year later when it faded out almost completely it turned pink when I had it highlighted.
I did my hair again recently with Feria, but this time blonde, a few months ago and it came out great looking. Even my roots that are growing out look close to my natural color.

I have had good luck with the cap highlighting kits. I just have my boyfriend pull it through. As long as you have the cap tight and are careful about pulling through then you should have no problem getting the bleach to the scalp. But if you poke too much then you will get leopard spots (this actually happened to my cousin and she shaved her head. but she is crazy anyway and it looked cool on her)

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MissMel
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posted 03-27-2003 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MissMel   Click Here to Email MissMel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am such a chicken. I couldn't even get my self to buy some highlighting stuff at the store the other day. Arrggh. Oh, well.

Tell me again how easy it is and how great it will look?

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HotGlueMama
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posted 03-27-2003 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HotGlueMama   Click Here to Email HotGlueMama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, so I asked a pro about my refuses-to-hold-color-faded-as-all-hell hair and she recommended I do a serious deep conditioning treatment, then use a semi-permanent dye. She said permanent dyes have peroxide in them and my hair may not absorbing dye because of it. So semi-perm should actually hold better.

Anyone heard anything like this before? Tried it? How'd it go? What IS deep conditioning?

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jazzberry
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posted 04-01-2003 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jazzberry   Click Here to Email jazzberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Deep conditioning is a certain type of conditioner that's in the same section as regular shampoos and conditioners. It's usually the smaller bottles/tubes that are twice the price. You hafta read the directions, but you usually put it on after shampooing, and leave it on for about 3-5 minutes (give or take) before rincing it out. While they can be pricey, man, do they make your hair feel great!

(btw, I know this is late, but, highlighting caps themselves don't cause pain, but the process hurts because you have to use this metal tool to pull the little sections of hair through the holes in the cap)

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dallas214
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posted 04-19-2003 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dallas214   Click Here to Email dallas214     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just saw on TV that L'Oreal is giving away $5 coupons for their Coleur Experte highlighting kit if you go to the following website.

www.makethemwonder.com

You just print the coupon out directly from there.

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fluffygurl
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posted 04-20-2003 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffygurl   Click Here to Email fluffygurl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I feel like a bit of colour I use Wella colour mousse in fiery red. Its easy to use and the colour makes my hair all healthy looking and shiny. The red isnt that fiery though cos I have dark brown hair.

On colour correction I had the blonde bits of my hair (see my blonde hair in the pics thread)dyed back to my natural colour perfectly. Granted it took 4 hours and was about €90 but they matched the colour perfectly. It has faded slightly but not so other people would notice. But for colour correction its definitly a trip to the professionals!

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becca11
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posted 04-22-2003 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for becca11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HotGlueMama:
OK, so I asked a pro about my refuses-to-hold-color-faded-as-all-hell hair and she recommended I do a serious deep conditioning treatment, then use a semi-permanent dye. She said permanent dyes have peroxide in them and my hair may not absorbing dye because of it. So semi-perm should actually hold better.

Anyone heard anything like this before? Tried it? How'd it go? What IS deep conditioning?


A trick on the deep condition front is they get you to leave the conditioner in for longer...which will make any conditioner work better. So if you use your normal conditioner, but leave it in 15 minutes, your hair will be deep conditioned.

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jumpinmonkies
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posted 04-23-2003 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jumpinmonkies   Click Here to Email jumpinmonkies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just thought I'd report on my L'Oreal Couleur Experte experience considering it's a pretty new product. Gotta say, love it, LOVE it, love IT. Looks pretty darn natural; highlights were easy to do and were a good match with the hair color I selected (or in other words, didn't just come in ONE highlight color: blonde.) Fairly subtle results. Really great after conditioner. Feeling GLAM!

Oh... and thanks so much for posting a link for the coupon. Definitely makes me feel better about spending THAT much money on at home hair color when I can get a discount to try it.

Jen

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KillaCondoms
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posted 07-21-2003 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KillaCondoms   Click Here to Email KillaCondoms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone keeps saying how Feria is doing really bad things to their hair. But I've been using Feria for a really really long time now...and I use it pretty often (I dye my hair red, and red fades faster than any other color, so it needs reg. touch ups) So, I honestly dye my hair about every other weekend...I've used Feria mostly, but have gone between other brands, and never had a problem, also, I've noticed that all the conditoner they give you in any hair dye is the same..the trick it to wash your hair with that, until the next hair dye...if you run out, they also sell a bottle of the same stuff...it comes in a box, and is with the hair dye, or the shampoo...i think it is Clairol...I'm not sure though...just thought i should write that I think Feria does just fine

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