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lirpa Subletter |
I use the cap method for highlights. Your hair must be completley dry before attempting this or you'll just be pulling your hair out. A professional cap is a good investment if you are planning on highlighting your hair every so often. One cap could last you a lifetime if you take care of it properly (clean it imediatley after use). Cheap store-bought caps aren't tight enough and you'll end up with highlights that fall short of the root (this gives your highlights a grown-out look). Most salons won't sell you a hair cap unless they have them new for sale. You'll also need the hook for pulling the hair through. You don't need a big hook, the little one will do (pull hair through every second hole once or twice for subtle highlights, pull hair through every third or fourth hole three to six times for chunky hightlights). You should only pull through little bits at a time to reduse breaking the hair -don't pull too hard. If the hair still doesn't come through easily try applying some talk powder to the interior of the cap (hair and cap must be as dry as possible). I completley disagree with the 'wand' method for highlights. This only produces chunky highlights and you never get enough product in the box (for medium lenght hair) to do more than six or eight passings of the wand. You end up with un-natural, extra bold highlights at the root that fade as you reach the ends of the hair. Visit www.visual-makeover.com for styling advise tailored to your shapes and colors. IP: Logged |
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fairystar Housemate |
I've read through this thread and it seems like Natural Instincts is the semi-permanent that's been recommended a couple times. Does anyone know of any other winners? Or other successes with Natural Instincts? I'm ready to dye my hair again, but I don't think I want to go permanent this time around. IP: Logged |
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soupprincess Housemate |
quote: Get thee to a Sally's beauty supply (or similar hairdye haven) and buy TONER. It will say on the label whether it gives ash, neutral, or golden hues. Find one that says platinum, hopefully, and don't hesitate to ask for help from the saleswomen, esp. the older ladies who know a thing or two... They also sell a NO RED product, which you can buy in sample sizes, which might help. Be extra careful with that 40 vol. It's supposedly hard on the scalp. This should help somewhat with the brassyness. Also, hard water can be bad for color. And they sell a clear goo in an envelope for about $1.39 that makes your hair unbelievable shiny afterwards, it's a gloss for your hair and you apply it like dye. IP: Logged |
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flowergal657 Subletter |
I dyed my hair black lol which is not good...I was told it would look good on me and I thought it would too..I used to have a medium blonde. Well I went to the store, bought the coloring (Clairol Nice N' Easy Natural Black) and now it looks like I have a wig on. Some people have suggested putting red highlights in...should I try to dye it at least brown? IP: Logged |
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quantumlotus Housemate |
quote: I'm afraid you won't have any luck dying any color - brown or red - over top of the black My advice is to shell out the money (or beg someone to loan it to you - lots of tears help) and go somewhere and have it done professionally. They will need to strip all the color out first and then dye it again. I have stripped my hair by myself at home and I would not advise anyone else to try it. Otherwise you may just have to wait it out or cut it really short so it is not quite so shocking and cut it all off as it grows out. Bummer - I feel your pain!!! Edited to say: I never have luck with "Nice n' Easy" brand haircolor - always comes out looking too flat. I just dyed my hair black yesterday (what a coincidence huh) and whenever I do I use Ferria's "starry night". [This message has been edited by quantumlotus (edited 05-14-2004).] IP: Logged |
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MissMel Housemate |
So. I dyed my hair for the first time last week, and while the color doesn't look too bad, it just doesn't have the punch that I used to have. Basically, I miss my beach-y highlights, but I'll just have to deal, because I cannot afford to go have them professionally. I used Natural Instincts (which worked really well and was fairly easy). How long should I wait before I try to improve upon what I've already done? I went from medium blonde with sun-bleached highlights, to flat medium ash brown. Ideally, I'd like to be more auburn, bring out some of my natural red. I'm seeing Drew Barrymore in 'Ever After', after she becomes the princess. Right now, I'm the before picture. Any suggestions for brands/ products/ techniques? IP: Logged |
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fairystar Housemate |
I dyed my hair a dark brownish-auburn awhile ago with Herbal Essences, but I can't remember what color it was specifically. It came out very dark at first, almost black with red in it, but it faded to a medium brown with a tint of red pretty quickly. However, it then faded to a washed out reddish brown-blonde and basically went back to my natural color. Blah. So don't use Herbal Essences for darker colors! IP: Logged |
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minxx Housemate |
I'm using the Revlon 10 minute hair color right now. It's fabulous. I've always gone light blonde but I'm assuming you would get similar results with a darker color. IP: Logged |
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quarkiegirl Housemate |
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yeefan Head of the House |
originally posted by florenceD:
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yeefan Head of the House |
more advice on hair coloring disasters: http://www.digsmagazine.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000494.html IP: Logged |
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gemini Housemate |
How's your hubby's hair now, Flo? I don't have any advice for you, since you already did what I would have suggested when you tried a darker color. I hope you've found a way to fix it! When I was little, my mom gave my dad a perm (this was the early 80s). She just meant to give it a little body, but he ended up with an afro. Very hilarious in retrospect, but it was quite a crisis at the time. IP: Logged |
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LaMantequilla Housesitter |
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muffy917 Subletter |
Hi!! Just a quick note about hair fading even after coloring it dark. Any type of hair color;light or dark, will be lightened because bleach is always contained in a hair coloring product. The bleach leaves the hair porous, essentially leaving "holes" in the hair shaft. This will ultimately cause the hair to fade. What you need to use is a "filler", which you can purchase from any beauty supply store. Once you use this, it will "plug" the holes, the hair color will hold onto the shaft without fading. Hope this helps. quote: [This message has been edited by muffy917 (edited 08-07-2004).] IP: Logged |
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quarkiegirl Housemate |
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gemini Housemate |
**This is in response to a question posted in a separate thread** Simplycuteaful, I think you should talk to the most recent stylist and ask him if there is anything he can do for you. In general, I believe that most stylists will fix your hair for free if you're unhappy with what they've done with it. Really, though, it sounds like you've done so much to your hair that there might not be much he can do--especially if it's starting to break off. You might have no choice but to cut off the most damaged parts and maybe use temporary at-home color to keep it all one color while your healthy new hair grows in. IP: Logged |
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silly putty Housesitter |
I use Herbal Essences, and I love it...sorta. Like others have said, it does wash out really quickly. I love the colour I get at first (I use Medium Red with Rosehips), but it fades from a glorious rich red to an orange-y colour in a couple of weeks. I love the latex gloves that SOMETIMES come with it (explain this to me, sometimes they're the crappy plastic ones that leave you with purple, in my case, spots), and the tube of more-than-one conditioner that also SOMETIMES comes with it. I'm scared to try another brand, because I have been warned that changing brands can cause a bad reaction with your current colour. Horror story: I used to use Blondissima Super on my hair as a hair dye... No colour on top of it, just plain old bleach, I liked the platinum look. I was trying to grow my hair out, but it was fried, and felt like straw. I decided to dye it red, thinking it would be less harmful, and when I was done, the roots were purple, and the ends were still white. When I went to brush it out, CLUMPS of hair ended up in the comb!!! The last 2 inches or so of my hair were just coming OUT in the comb. This was one of the most traumatizing events of my life... My friend came over and I cried and cried as she cut all my hair to the length of the roots: about 3/4 of an inch long. Sigh! I felt like an ugly boy, for about 4 months. On another note, I also tried bleaching out black at one point. I used to wear my hair all in crazy spikes, it was about 3 inches long. After I died it, 1/2 of it (the roots) were orange, and the tips were purple. Luckily, at the time, I thought this was fabulous, I looked like a porcupine. I actually had people say they loved it, and wanted to know how I got it that way. I also tried Feria, and hated it. Nice shiny black over blond came out looking grey, and not shiny at all. IP: Logged |
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BionicGirl Housemate |
Sitting here with dye in my hair right now... I had to get a differnt shade this time. I couldn't find the one I normally get (though it's really, really close), but I did stick with the Loreal, which I've been very happy with. Dark Auburn this time, it's a tad bit more brown thn what I've been doing. But damn I needed it badly, the roots were getting noticable, not to mention there were a few gray hairs peeking out on top. IP: Logged |
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jstrizzy Housemate |
I suppose that explains your lack of pants. IP: Logged |
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Jinxie Housemate |
I haven't dyed my hair since November of last year...I've been trying to grow it out so I could put a stop to 10 years of futzing around with hair color. All because I wanted to try red hair-it became this never-ending cycle. Then I just stopped the coloring, and cut my hair short a few months ago, and all of the color is finally out of my hair and now I really really want to go to t@rget and buy a box of hair color and dye my re-virginized locks. Somebody stop me! IP: Logged |
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bekkaboo Housesitter |
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pollyhyper Housesitter |
BionicGirl, how did it turn out? Jinxie and Bekkaboo, don't you DARE!! I'll come over and slap the dye back out of your hair should you not heed my threat. IP: Logged |
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Jinxie Housemate |
Yes ma'am. Stepping away from the hair dye... Maybe I'll just get that john frieda shampoo for blondies...it will bring out my natural highlights! Or something like that...I'm sure if I didn't spend most of my daylight hours indoors, I might actually get natural highlights, like from the sun. IP: Logged |
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Isabel Housemate |
Wow, you guys are my idols...letting your natural hair grow in. I've been attempting to do that for a few years now, but I always get the itch. I decided to let it grow out but still add a few highlights here and there so it doesn't look too weird - moussy blonde/brown hair roots with blond hair. So, how does the natural hair compare? Was it worth it? I guess I'm just afraid that my natural haircolour is gross... but I haven't seen it for 10 years now! IP: Logged |
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Jinxie Housemate |
Actually...all coloring temptations aside,it is totally worth it. It's certainly a lot cheaper--I'd been dying my hair in the red family for years, and that is a bitch to maintain, especially since I started going to a salon for color in the last year or so [one bad home-dye job too many, and salon prices seem totally worth it...]. I was worried that my color would seem flat and boring, because I always thought it was boring--that's why I kept coloring it. But it's actually nice. And, suprise surprise...it suits me, it matches my coloring much better than the many shades of red ever did. I did the highlight thing when I was growing it out, and it did help the transition by camoflauging the roots. If I do anything to my hair color-wise, I might just get a a dye that's close to my natural, but a little perkier...just to shine it up...nothing drastic... IP: Logged |
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kittenkat Housemate |
Hair color addicts anonymous anyone? 3 of my close friends are hairstylists, which helps explain my addiction. I've been many shades of red, never blond, and am now just tired of the maintenance since I very rarely have 3 hours to spend in the chair these days for my usual complicated multi-color job. So, I'm now in the process of seeing what my natural color turns out to be. It's been a while since I've seen it. Fortunately, my last color seems to be pretty close to my natural shade, so growing it hasn't been bad. Now if I could just resolve the cut it micro-short or let it grow debate I've been having... IP: Logged |
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BionicGirl Housemate |
quote: Indeed.
quote: Great! It is darker than I imagined, but I like it a lot. On the growing it out thing... I've done that a few times and go back without remorse everytime. I've been dying my hair off and on since I was 12. It's naturally dishwater blond and it just grays out my complexion. It's not flattering at all. Darker hair (and red hair) just looks better on me. thre's only been one time when all the chemicals damaged the hair and that was when I was 17 and I permed too close to dying. Learned my lesson there. After having it professionally dyed for many years as well, I can't honestly say I've noticed much difference in how long it lasts or how silky it feels afterwards between professional and home jobs. The only times I definitely thought the professional job was much better was when I've done something other than all over color, like highlights or whatever. IP: Logged |
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Isabel Housemate |
Yeah, I guess the only way to tell how my natural colour looks is to grow it out. Although last time I got it cut, I had some roots growing in, and the haircutter-lady kept pressuring me into getting it highlighted by her because my natural hair colour was gross! Ok, she didn't say gross, but she did make a yucky face, and called it "mousey blond". Anyone else have ash-blond natural hair? How does it look? IP: Logged |
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Jinxie Housemate |
I think my haircolor could be considered a sort of ashy-blond...a dark ashy blond. It's hard to tell, as this is the first time I've been all-natural in nearly 10 years. And that certainly wasn't very nice of your hairdresser to poo-poo your haircolor and your decision to let it grow out--isn't their job to work with the hair you've got, and what you want to do with that hair? Don't forget--if you're no longer dying your hair, you're also no longer paying them to dye your hair [so maybe I'm a little cynical...]. IP: Logged |
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Isabel Housemate |
I actually dye my hair at home, this is the first time I went to this lady. She was just trying to sell me everything. When she first washed my hair, she dramatically struggled to pull her hands through my hair and told me I needed a moisturizing treatment ASAP (I declined that b/c I wanted to do it myself at home instead of paying $15 extra). She then asked what kind of shampoo I used, and I told her Herb@l Essences, or something like that. She almost had a heart attack and proceeded to try to sell me $30 salon shampoo. Again, I declined. And then, she proceeds to tell me to stay and get my hair highlighted by her. I mean, even if I was going to get it professionally done, I wouldn't go back to her. (And its not like SHE had the nicest hair anyways, so why rag on mine?) Why do some hair stylists do that??!! It annoys me to no end, and I'm afraid to go get it cut anywhere for fear of comments about the colour/texture/health of my hair. It seems like everywhere I go, they make condescending comments about my hair, as if I have no idea how to take care of it. IP: Logged |
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Jinxie Housemate |
It certainly isn't easy to find your beautician soul-mate, and I think all of us can relate to the angst of searching for a decent salon...but still...there's no reason for anyone to be condescending and rude to a customer, no matter what industry you're in. Being told my hair is yucky, being treated like...like...I dunno...a leper or something equally gross where my hair is concerned--that just makes me feel self-conscious. And I go to a nice salon to feel pretty and confident and all that nonsense. Anyway, my point is...I dunno. Do I have a point? I guess it's just to be strong. Resist the urge to buy every product or extra service offered to you. The stylist may be the hair expert, but you have to live with your hair, and you probably know it best. Trust your instincts! IP: Logged |
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Isabel Housemate |
Thanks Jinxie! I usually try to ignore them, but it gets kinda frustrating after a while. Oh well, that's sorta why I dye and sometimes cut my own hair... that and its cheaper too.
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katbenz Subletter |
Dear Hairgirl: What do you think of Hi Color from Loreal, I was thinking of using it, but I got kind of afraid, since I dont know anyone that has tried it. I have med brown hair and am looking for a dark sandy blonde result. Also I hove to color my hair myself. Katbenz quote: IP: Logged |
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katbenz Subletter |
How does the color cover the gray, and does anyone know how it looks in the blonde shades. quote: IP: Logged |
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jumpinmonkies Housemate |
katbenz, I really can't attest to coverage of gray since I don't have any just yet. Sorry! IP: Logged |
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cinnamonsugar Subletter |
I have naturally "dishwater blond" hair. I go to a stylist. For the past few times I decided to go darker, a really vibrant light-medium brown with red/auburn tones. I loved my color last time but I just went in yesterday, and now I've got more of a medium brown, not nearly as cinnamon-tinged as I had hoped!! She said it was semi-perm.. So, I was wondering if I should try a semi-perm. box color, maybe cinnaberry by natural instincts, to bring a reddish pop back??? I have rosy cheeks, blue-green eyes...I've found that a touch of red really brings color into my complexion. I am worried that if I use a box colorant it will damage my hair more than my salon color does. IP: Logged |
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Jinxie Housemate |
As far as I know--and I'm just going on experience as a hair-dye addict, not expert, so any of you professionals wanna chime in, go right ahead--the vast majority of home hair color kits are just as safe/gentle as products used in salons. This seems to be especially true with the semi and demi-perm colors, since they aren't designed to provide drastic results. Also touching on an earlier post--it's pretty difficult to go lighter with home color. Unless you have an actual bleaching kit [and I DO NOT recommend doing that yourself], stuff like Garnier Nutrisse won't turn brown hair blonde. As for adding a reddish "pop" to your newly dyed brown hair--I'd go for it, using a semi-perm color, but you might want to wait a week or so to avoid doing any damage to your hair. Again--that stuff is pretty safe, but sometimes you wanna play it safe, right? IP: Logged |
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cinnamonsugar Subletter |
Yeah, I really DO want to play it safe! I don't want to hurt my hair. I suppose that ANY haircolor is going to be somewhat damaging, no matter what the formulation, that's the science of it. Still, I've been led to believe that salon processes are much more gentle and results are better than those from a box. But isn't that what the salons want us to think so we will spend the money? I understand that the products may be better in a professional salon, but when my color fades in a few weeks anyway, it seems ridiculous to spend so much there...So, home coloring with semi-perm (herbal essences..etc) is not very damaging?? I'm just nervous to do it. Thanks for your vote of confidence...I'm very tempted, but I will try to wait a week or so. [This message has been edited by cinnamonsugar (edited 09-17-2004).] IP: Logged |
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cinnamonsugar Subletter |
I'm going to call my hairstylist tomorrow a.m. to fix this color. For next time, I will probably do it myself. IP: Logged |
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stickmonkey Subletter |
Hi, my username is stickmonkey. I hope I am responding to this in the correct manner. I have yellow-orange roots. I had a friend offer to highlight my hair on the top and sides, and it looks more like an all over color. About an inch out from my scalp, it is very pale, and the next couple of inches are orange and yellow. Anyone have any suggestions? Some have said to stay away from ash or the yellow may turn out weird, but I need something that will battle the orange too. HELP! I thought about adding some low lights in my natural dishwater blonde color to tone things down (just a few foils here and there on top). Would a semi-permanent color such as Natural Instincts or L'Oreal ColorSpa Moisture Actif be best? If so, what color?
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